more from arrrika. According to rick of electricmusicbox, "thats the buchla 406 ( keyboard equipted 400) from Cantos.. i know that instrument well as I spend alot of time at Cantos."
Tuesday, June 13, 2006
Buchla - New Flickr Shots
more from arrrika. According to rick of electricmusicbox, "thats the buchla 406 ( keyboard equipted 400) from Cantos.. i know that instrument well as I spend alot of time at Cantos."
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Wizard ... needs mp3 ... badly ...
ReplyDeletethe way a user interacts with a buchla is what makes it unique. the sound is amazing once you get your head around how to really use it.
ReplyDeletethe 400 relies on a software language (there are actually a few for the 400, Patch, MIDAS & Mable) i would say although it sounds wonderful it isnt initially as easy or fun to coax sounds out of as something like the 200 or 200e.
i suggest that rather then wait for a MP3 to come along that you enjoy, if you are really interested in hearing a buchla that you put yourself in a situation where you could actually spend some time interacting with one.
So how does it sound in comparison to the 200? And to the 200e? And how the 200 and 200e sound in comparison to one another, in your opinion?
ReplyDeletethe 400 and the 259e both use similar methods for generating their timbres (non-linear waveshaping) then the output of the 400s Osc gets routed thru CEM Filters and lopass gates and some other output circuitry.. the parameters are controlled by a digital Arbitrary Function Generator. this could be replicated to an extent with the 200e in hardware
ReplyDeletethe newer 261e osc sounds alot like the old 200s 259 Osc.. i cant really compare the 400 to the 200e as i honestly dont have that much experience programming a 400.. I have liked what i have heard tho.
i think the 200 and 200e sound very similar.. the gates are pretty much identical.. obviously the 200e gives you more control over certain things ( the filter for example) but generally i think they are both pretty comparable in sound and funtionality.
-r
Anonymous 1 and 3. Yes, I buy all that 'interactivity' stuff totally. Still, perhaps I wish to appreciate something you can't or don't want to -- to listen to something someone has done with the interface. I know you can't really understand and appreciate that.
ReplyDeleteThese are kind of rare, and I am not likely to ever get to use one, so hearing one is what I'd like. One day they will not really work any more, and all we will have are recordings to imagine what they were like. Where do you know of some which can be played?
Not everyone's genes are the same man. Asparagus makes my pee smell. How bout you?
hi dok
ReplyDeletesure i can understand you wanting to hear one, i am just trying to get across that it is difficult to jugde the range of any instrument by an audio sample.
Buchlas to me are more special because of the differences between them and other more market friendly offerings not only in sound but the way one interacts with them.
there are more buchlas out there then it might seem. you would be welcome to play with my Buchla system anytime. There are a few universities with them on hand as well as museums like CANTOS and Audities in Calgary Alberta and of course several in the hands of private collections all over the world. Those Analog gatherings that happen all over the place could also present a possablity to get your hands on one.
good examples of buchlas in action can be heard on recordings by Mort Subotnick, early Charlemagne Palestine and the Music Easel is well represnted in some of the samples of performances by Charles Cohen.
I dont think the 200e has been out and in use long enough for there to be many examples available that are worth listening to. It is capable of recreating the sounds and functionality of similar buchlas from earlier eras.
" it is difficult to jugde the range of any instrument by an audio sample."
ReplyDeleteThis is true. This is why someone should post several samples for everyone to hear. But nobody does. I'm beginning to suspect that the Buchla hype is just that. There are a lot of new modular synths out there that sound great. The mystery of the Buchla is what draws people to it, but I think it's overdone, and believe a good part of it's also based on it's good looks and rarity rather than it's sound. So some people are attracted to it because they're superficial. There really is no good explanation as to why there are so few recordings of Buchlas or why owners are so hesitant to share recordings of it with the world. I think the people who are reading this who have Buchla gear should take a few minutes to post some sounds so we can hear for ourselves what they're capable of, unless they don't even know how to use them? I know this would be sad, but it is a possibility.
i give up, you are right buchlas sound horrible. Don is such a marketing genious that he's been able to build shit sounding synths for 40 years and sell them for large sums based on his abilities as a salesman.
ReplyDeleteit is just the hype that makes people go crazy for them after they try them, it has nothing to do with how great they sound and fun they are to play.
wow, you figured it out!