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Wednesday, April 11, 2007
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JV-1080?! Craptacular! This is the lamest Top 20 - EVER!
ReplyDeleteWell, sometimes the truth hurts.
ReplyDeleteanonymous. obviously you've never had to make a living out of making music. Any mature electronic musician would know you can't survive without some of these instruments. this chart is for jobbing musicians, not wannabes.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I think you'll find the 'crappy'JV1080 was Roland's best selling synth. stick with yer SK1, anonymous.
ReplyDeleteJV-1080 is nice, but the ms20? CRAP CRAP CRAP
ReplyDeleteHands up - I did the JV1080 bit, and perhaps I undersold it somewhat, it was actually a pretty major landmark in stuff used for making records - I got it becuase it offered fairly lush sounds (the sort of sounds that were in the charts at the time) and a large polyphony - so in the days of running enormous amounts of MIDI stuff live, it was great as you could just keep adding parts (guilty m'lud) and it would take it.
ReplyDeleteAd to that the outputs and effects - actually the effects werent great, but usable and it was a failry important development in terms of music production.
Um. Perhaps I'm overcompensating ;-)
i notice no one is attacking the D-50. Do we have some Enya fans here on the board?
ReplyDeleteNope! i can't see anybody with a name that might give away that they're an Enya fan
ReplyDeletePUMPING IRON FOR ENYA:
ReplyDeletei joined a gym,
although its not punk at all,
but i gotta look good and lower my cholesterol.
there's one girl i want to notice me.
i'll have a slightly better chance if my body is buff you see.
i'm being obsessive, B-E obsessive.
Her name is ENYA, for her, i'm running this mile,
and it will upset my parents that i am stalking a gentile.
i'm willing to do anything, i'll be her slave.
there's only one word difference in new age and new wave.
we can sing it enya, your synthesizer or mine,
it's all the same,
and doesn't Enya Goren oronoco flow,
like the perfect name?
so i joined a gym with my dad,
we were both scared,
and it's always pretty weird seeing your dad in his underwear.
at the universal machine,
i put the weight at 1 lbs. you see,
i bench the thing up and down real fast and everybody envies me.
you don't even know me Enya, and i've only seen your face on the cover of your cd.
i'm waiting for you Enya, so please Enya wait for me.
your heart could fall for mine if you let it,
i wrote you a love letter did you get it?
though i know this might sound strange,
if you don't like who i am, maybe i can change.
"Hands up - I did the JV1080 bit, and perhaps I undersold it somewhat...."
ReplyDeletegiven the tight format and seeing what you do in other vid reviews - I thought you were more "concise" than "underselling"
r
(addicted to your podcast btw)
The JV-1080 is the foundation of my studio. My Goto synth for acoustic and generic sounds.
ReplyDeleteWe had a 1080 in the studio for years, and a 990 & a 3080 or 5080 or something. Now we have one of those Fantom things with the orange drum pads. I'm sure that will get replaced with whatever the plug-in equivalent of wispy general midi is at some point in the future. A working stiff always needs something that sounds like what you hear on records, no matter how embarrassingly cheezy it is. It's funny how solid the D50 sounds after years of that rackmounted crap. I guess the bright side of the disappearance of CD sales and performance royalties is that we can finally stop buying instruments we'd otherwise feel like leaving under a blanket when our friends come over.
ReplyDelete~Heh, concise, I'll have to remember that one!
ReplyDeleteI guess that the JV1080 comes under the workhorse category, but that still doesnt mean that it's not a valid entry in the chart - I know noones claiming that - cant help being a bit defensive ;-).
But not the trendiest synth certainly.
r, glad you like the podcast btw.
Tomorrow is a 50 minute interview with Solaris creator John Bowen...
All in all though this series continues its downward trend of miserably laughably bad.
ReplyDelete"obviously you've never had to make a living out of making music. Any mature electronic musician would know you can't survive without some of these instruments."
keyboardist != electronic musician
Just because you play a keyboard at weddings and birthday parties does not make you an electronic musician. At best, you are a pianist who happens to play a piano which sounds like a synthesizer. The guys who gig with drum machines, modular synthesizers, and analog step sequencers, THOSE are the real electronic musicians.
Someone in this post erroneously states that "Yeah, I think you'll find the 'crappy'JV1080 was Roland's best selling synth."
Popularity of a keyboard is in no way indicative of the merits of that product. Especially as a synth pertains to a true electronic musician. Sure a certain product can get someone from point a to point b in a production context, but so can a Geo Storm in a going to the grocery store context. That doesnt mean that the Geo is a great car by any stretch of the imagination.
This series should really be renamed to "top 20 most popular synths". Even then the order of the synths should be redone. Would anyone here honestly use a Roland D-50 over an Access Virus when given the choice? Evem Ebay prices are a better indicator of the "greatness" of a synth than this horrible set of videos.
The JV1080 being on that list intrigues me less than the Juno. I mean people voted for their top 3 and who the hell thinks a Juno is a top 3 synth?? Even if you dig the Juno thing there's a few more than 3 synths that do it better!
ReplyDeleteThe JV-1080 however is understandably a meaningful piece for rompler synth people. Still competitive sounding to this day, imo.
It's about brand names.
"Greatest" and "most popular are two entirely different things. That list is shite, IMO.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to look up the dx7 and see if it made it yet. Betcha it's numero uno....
ReplyDeletemy crap 2 cents....
nah. minimoog, obviously.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous. If you had to make a living from music in the 80's and 90's you would understand what this show is about.
ReplyDeleteI'm happy for you that you have obviously never had to make a living from music. But lots of others have.
Yep. This is the list I would expect from the Holiday Inn lounge band keyboard player who knew nothing about the history of synths
ReplyDeleteShow me to the Holiday Inn where they use ARP2600's VCS3's Juno 60's OB8's Solinas MS20's and CS80's puleeeez.
ReplyDeleteFCS, put your money where your mouth is and let's see this so called list of yours?
Those true greats were dumped for the "greater" JV-1080, D-50, M1, and DX7.
ReplyDeleteNo list from you then...Armchair critisism. the worst kind.
ReplyDeleteI like how they play examples of the synths in famous songs while talking about them. The D50 example was interesting when he used the same factory patches that were in some songs. Just goes to show that the sounds you remember from songs are rarely the pure synth. There's always some chorus, reverb, eq, etc on it.
ReplyDeleteThe "best synths" concept is a bit naff, especially given that the only criteria used appears to be random votes, but I've found the videos to be good entertainment.
ReplyDeleteThat's all that really matters on such things, none of us really need Sonic State or any one else telling us what "the best synths" actually are, or that such a concept could ever be quantified in the first place (for example, the Minimoog would certainly be my top choice as "historically most notable synth," but wouldn't even scratch my top ten for best synthesizers based on capability).
Its good to see the Roland D50 in the charts of Top 20 greatest synths. The D50 is so good that I proudly own two of them now.
ReplyDeleteTo the poster who knocked the D50 - The Access Virus and D50 are two different synths. I'd still play a D50 aswell as a Virus.
Artmuzz
I think these Episodes are purely for a bunch of SonicState.com weenies that stocked up on crap gear over the years and they want to make some money. Emu Proetus anyone? Oh hey, I bet the 'Vintage Keys' is #1. ha ha ha ..
ReplyDeleteActually, I sold my JV1080 for a pitance several years ago...
ReplyDeleteNice theory though. I like the idea of us sitting on warehouses full of Proteusess (Proteui?) and M1s rubbing our hands together at the massive swing in ebay prices our little series will affect.
Of course, I'm going to buy a new Lexus from the proceeds with a custom dashboard made from reclaimed Minimoog wood panelling.