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New PAiA modular. BTW, I'm curious how this one sounds compared to the Fatman. If you you have one please comment.
Sunday, May 06, 2007
PAiA P9700S
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New PAiA modular. BTW, I'm curious how this one sounds compared to the Fatman. If you you have one please comment.
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Hey, I've got a Paia 9700 rig and I run it through an ElectroHarmonix Bi Filter and a Lexicon Vortex and a Jomox Mresonator ...sounds pretty good to me, best $450 I ever spent, the only negative is the cheesy patch cables, but hey ....at that price whatcha gonna do...andd at AH Bay area we also ran it through a Metaasonix TM-2 filter, sounded nice
ReplyDeleteThanks brian. BTW, what's cheesy about the patch cables? Just curious. Also, did you get yours pre-built or did you build it yourself? I wonder how much of a project it is compared to building a Fatman. I built a Fatman and it wasn't too bad, although I reversed a couple of transistors. : )
ReplyDeleteHi - I've got a 9700 that I built last year. It's a lot of functionality for $450. Oscillators sound good and the filter is fairly good, although it tends to be a bit unstable at strong resonance.
ReplyDeleteRe. Patch cables: The ones that are included in the kit have cheap plastic shrouds and only single conductor cable (assumes all connections are on one chassis). They work but are pretty wimpy. You can get excellent 1/8" mono patch cables for $1 ea. from All Electronics though (recommended by the folks at Plan B).
Thanks. I read that the patch chords tend to stick and the little plastic jacks can pop out when pulling chords out. Any truth to that? Can you get metal jacks instead? BTW, I do like the MOOG stlye knobs on this one.
ReplyDeleteI also love the different colored LEDs on this one. I missed that.
ReplyDeleteThe stock cables tend to be "sticky". i.e. you really have to tug to get em out, sometimes two hands...I assume they will loosen up over time ....I bought mine built from Craigslist for the price of the kit so I lucked out
ReplyDeleteI recently got another PAIA ADSR unit separate that I need to build it will be the VCA/ADSR to go with my Metasonix TM2 VCO assuming I ever get that calibrated
I am still in the process of building one myself.
ReplyDeleteIts quite the endeavour to build this project, but it is a fun one.
The only thing i still have to finish fixing on mine is the VCF module which isn't really a huge priority for me as i can substitute my moogerfooger LP filter for the time being.
Even without the filter this thing makes some pretty psychotic noises.
One of the fun and interesting features i discovered early on is that the 3 EG's (2 AR and 1 ADSR)can be flipped into cycle mode
and pretty much turned into LFO's
I ended up making some pretty crazy pseudo-FM sounds this way.
I completely agree about the patch cables.. I took one look in the bag of parts to assemble the cables and was like "ummm.. no!"
What i did was to steal the patch cables off my Korg Legacy MS-20 controller which i never use. They work perfectly.
My biggest two complaints about the whole package is:
-lack of multi's and attenuators.
-jacks are too close together. difficult to get at the one you want sometime.
personaly, i think this could have been done better using banana jacks. Maybe someday i'll convert mine if i ever get that adventurous.
One day we will all worship the same Banana God.
ReplyDeleteTogether, in unity, under the Banana Tree.
We'll chase those 1/4 inchers to the hills.
And with those freaky 1/8th inchers, why we'll chase em up a tree and set fire to them (but not a Banana Tree).
And those freaks who do it with bread boards, why we'll make them our secret priests.
It's all so clear to me now.
I'm in the process of wrapping mine up (just need to test VCA module). The Paia plugs are disappointing. Get some long mono cables from All Electronics and some metal 1/8" jacks. Cut down to whatever lengths pleases you and there you go.
ReplyDeleteI used to own a fatman and the 9700 is far, far more flexible. The FatMan has only ramp waveform, the 9700s has ramp, pulse, triangle, and 'sine' forms. And, of course, the wildly patchable nature.
If you want to build one, it's a good idea to have a decent meter and an oscilloscope (esp useful for the tuning the triangle part).
Back to the plugs: the plastic ones will fall apart. It's just a function of the plastic. The jacks are very stiff to start but will open up. Get metal plugs from All Electronics ($.40 ea in reasonable quantities). And always pull on the plug, not the wire.
Oh! Also available from All Electronics is the RG-174 coax cable that Blacet supplies in their cable kit.
Btw, converting the Paia to banana isn't impossible but you'll need a bunch more jacks to duplicate what's done with the normalization.
I prefer abnormalization.
ReplyDeletei prefer paranormalization
ReplyDeleteIts amazing how much difference the knobs make. It looks a lot better w/the moog knobs than those stupid looking paia knobs.
ReplyDeleteThose aren't Moog knobs.
ReplyDeleteSort of close, but not the same.
You know what I meant. Moog "style" knobs. Jeez, some people are such nit-picky asses.
ReplyDelete"some people are such nit-picky asses."
ReplyDeleteIf he's picky, what does that say about you calling Paia's choice of knobs stupid?
Works both ways.
As for me, I know Moog knobs can cost quite a bit. Maybe that was the point being made.
No need for words like stupid, nit-picky or asses.
I also really like the MIDI to CV controller, see option 3 below , it pts your MIDI keyboard in control of 8 CV outs , way cool for tweaking
ReplyDeleteyou can choose any of these set ups
1. Pitch and Gate control of 4 synth voices. Either Multi (assignment of data from four midi channels) or Mono (rotational assignment of data from one midi channel) operation.
or 2.
Pitch, Velocity and Gate control of 2 voices plus Pitch and Mod wheel CVs. Either Multi or Mono assignment can be selected.
or 3
Pitch, Velocity, Pitch Wheel, Mod Wheel, Release Velocity, Channel Pressure, Gate and Re-trigger. Complete, true staccato control of one synth voice.
or 4.
8 CVs from Continuous Controller messages. Controllers can be on one midi channel or separate channels.
or
Analog Drum Trigger Mode. 8 pulses by note# with pulse amplitude set by note velocity.
or
DIN Sync - 24ppq, Start, Stop and Continue PLUS simultaneous control of a single Pitch, Velocity, Gate, Wheel, Re-trigger synth voice or two multi-assigned voices with Pitch, Velcocity, and Gate.