Mattson Mini Modular 4 X Mixer
Tuesday, September 18, 2007
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I'm really starting to like the look of these. Kinda evokes a real vintage look. Can't wait to see a rack of them all patched together. The Punch in faeture looks like fun. Sometimes I just wanna mute a source quickly.
ReplyDeleteIs there enough spacing if I want to add my own small knobs? What is the diameter of the shaft?
ReplyDeleteand don't puurvee on me man.
meh...
It would be so funny if there was just one knob and you had to pull it off of one pot and attach it to another pot to tweak.
ReplyDeleteAn the knob could have a click-counter and license only n tweaks before an Internet based re-charge had to occur. Of course, the knob would have to have Wi-Fi, Edge, 3G, Blue-Tooth and have 6 cores like the PS3 (but no rumble pack).
It would also be good if the control voltage was in the range of 7000 volts and neon bulbs would light up when they got near it. Could that happen please?
are the mute buttons momentary or latching?
ReplyDeletethanks for answering my questions so far, sir. i know you're busy. you should take a break, it's your big day! sit back and relax, go hire a street urchin to upload your pictures and answer my questions!
I wonder if these panels fit right into MOTM rack rails @ 2-units high?
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ReplyDeleteI wonder if these panels fit right into MOTM rack rails @ 2-units high?"
compare the size of the 1/8th jacks to the overall size of the unit. they're not motm sized, dude.
nobody has asked the most important question...will it do those singnature buchla sounds
ReplyDeleteLike the Buchla Banjo sound
ReplyDeletedoes it g0tz a p0ly-m0dz? u no dave smith fr0gaught abot it. HOW BOT U?
ReplyDeletemeh...
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ReplyDeletemeh ....
ReplyDeletethose are the 1/8" jacks i like.
ReplyDeletei think closer to 7 or 800
Meh means rubbish. It means boring. It means not worth the effort, who cares, so-so, whatever. It is the all-purpose dismissive shrug of the blogger and messageboarder. And it is ubiquitous. On the I Love Music messageboard, for example, 4,010 separate discussion threads feature the use of "meh".
ReplyDeleteActually, I have one BIG knob for all of you. LOL
ReplyDeletePass it around, send it to friends, tell them it will bring bad luck if they don't make 10 copies and get them sent in 3 minutes. You guys are great! Thanks for the laughs and the support.
The "punch-in" buttons are latching. One way or another. Another "honesty" moment along with another hint. I had to run to R*d*o S*a*k and get those for the pic. Somebody mentioned delegation. OK, let me ask you for your help. The original switches were too big, too ugly and too costly. I need a small, Push-on, push off pushbutton switch that will fit a (wait for it....) 1/4" round hole. Looks really cool, doesn't cost a lot (minimal)and doesn't stick out the back of the panel more than 5/8". Preferably, something that let's you visualize whether it's in or out. I know they exist. but damned if I can find them readily available without whoring out and buying a s**tload at a time.
I'll find them, but if any of you have a "ready" resource, it would help me take care of more important stuff without wasting a lot of time. I thank you in advance.
Since I told you the hole size, the pot shafts are 1/8" There's knobs available that will fit them, you just have to judge how big your fingers are to use them comfortably. Then, find what you like with your specs in mind. They're not really necessary unless you really, really have to have some. Then by all means-go ahead.
Did I mention the Web site will have a BBS/Forum? All of our resources can be pooled on how to find what, how to do this or that. Graphics files, DIY links, places to go to get "real" panels if you really want to blow cash on sexing up the system, etc.
I'm not just bringing up a new system and trying to break into the manufacturing game. I've done it before. It was always business-and slooooow.
I plan on being interactive and working and helping the people who really need the support. Maybe not all the time, I can't build these things if I'm hanging out on the BBS. That wouldn't be too good. But, I have some well known, synth community guru's lined up to help out as moderators.
Man, what an opportunity. I wish this stuff was around 27 years ago.
And one other hint. I don't want to give away too much. The format will not be physically compatible with the other guys. Oh my God!! Oh, the humanity. Sorry. As I said, there's a reason. But, There are guys out there who make "mock" panels in whatever format you want. I'll even post links on the BBS. Make one up. Mount the board on it and put it in your other system. Or, if you're not comfortable doing that. There's people who can help you out.
I've said more than I had planned. I always was a blabber mouth. :)
We'll put up the analog glide module next.
George Mattson
Ummm am i missing something here? Whats with all these posts with the ugly ass photoshop modules? And how in the world do you guys think they look good? lol
ReplyDeleteAhh, yes...the obligatory "thats photoshopped" comment that we were all waiting for. Haha, gotta love the interweb.
ReplyDeletemeh ... teh internet brings my shit 2 u 4 free. meh...
ReplyDeleteso the pcb's are parallel to the face plate right? otherwise why have a mounting screw in each corner? are the jacks and pots mounted to the pcb? or is there a bunch of tedious, slow, and expensive hand wiring to do? hopefully not...
ReplyDeleteand how about those mounting screw holes? they seem kind of big, and they're not holes, they're slots...hmmm what does that mean
I guess I just don't understand the "photoshopped" comments.
ReplyDeleteThese are actual pix of the modules, then, I crop out the stuff around them with a basic program that came free with my camera. I don't have photoshop.
Anyway, As this proves. I can't be the judge of what everybody wants. So I provided a means of allowing the owner to make it what they want.
I'm more concerned with what the circuits do.
I'll get the next one ready anyway LOL.
George Mattson
Oh, yeah, the boards are parallel to the panel. The panel components connect to the board with identical-length jumpers designed so any control can fit in any of the 16 available spots without having to remove cables. Simple, Easy.
Are the slots "really" that big? or is it a perception thing? :)
G
They do seem a tad big, I had that same thought, but then again a lot of the big manufacturers just drill a small screw hole in the panel instead of using the notches. I guess its hard to say until we see how it all comes together.
ReplyDeleteI kind of agree about the slots being big. If I were you I would reduce the width of the slots, but I am not you now am I? ;)
ReplyDeleteIts hard to tell the width of the slots without knowing the panel dimensions. Looking at the jacks it looks like the slots are a bit bigger than 1/8" which isn't as wide as the pics would make it look. I dunno, I guess we'll have to wait till saturday to find out.
ReplyDeleteI'll probably get some pcbs if the prices are right.
ReplyDeleteif the holes are 1/4", looks like the modules are about 3.25" square - add an 1/8" clearance on the edges and you get 2U mounting space?
ReplyDeletemini-modular indeed
so what's the cheap way to rack and stack these things?
dude, come over here i'll sell some pcp... cheap..
ReplyDelete"so what's the cheap way to rack and stack these things?"
ReplyDeleteI assume with a drill a saw some nails and some scrap wood.
I made that rash comment earlier today about the font, and "Phoenix" .. and thanks for correcting my spelling!
ReplyDeleteI didn't realize at the time that these would be "kits" and that the panel graphics/layout could be modified by the user(s). This, and the affordable egalitarian pricing and the no-middleman philosophy makes this very exciting for some of us 'out here' who would like to put together a monster analog rig without a second mortgage on the house. In fact, this is the best thing since the old Paia days!! Congrats & good luck to you George!
Im guessing this is a HALF FRAC FORMAT. That is, two fit on a FR carrier. what do I win?
ReplyDeleteJust a note before I go to bed. I mentioned this earlier and I'll bring it up again for those that missed it in the firestorm :)
ReplyDeleteThis isn't a kit. It will be a fully functioning, built and tested system. The ability to change it is there for the guys who want to fancy it up. But, It's not necessary.
My philosophy is the new guys want to get into old-style true analog, fully modular experimenting, soundscaping and music making without it costing an arm and a leg.
Hopefully, they're willing to sacrafice some non-essential stuff to get the cost down as low as it can go and still get a good, honest modular.
The big boys cost a bunch and I realize that. So, we don't have real knobs (actual physical knobs-not pots- we have plenty of those), fancy graphics or high cost panels. The concept is you get a good modular that may not have some fancy functions but, it has some functions that others never thought of doing. No big markups, no middlemen. Just me taking orders and building them for you- maybe with the help of some friends if it is warranted.
I have no idea if people are willing to go this way or not. The whole concept is different. But, this is the way I decided to do it.
I very easily could have gone with all the high cost stuff and had a razzle-dazzle kick a-- modular that would rival the other guys. But, that's not my thing. I'm not trying to be a "millionaire" or big-ass business tycoon or create a Fortune 500 company. I just want to make an honest wage and build some synths that people can enjoy. I don't have the hell-fire attitude that I did when I was doing the Syntar, nor the same energy.
So, I'll answer the Phoenix Series queries now.
The core modules of the modular are re-designed from the Syntar, re-engineered for this format and brought up to today's standards. I designed other modules to accomodate signal and CV routing. So, The modules that say "Phoenix Series" are old Syntar base-circuit designs rising from some very old ashes.
George Mattson
"The original switches were too big, too ugly and too costly. I need a small, Push-on, push off pushbutton switch that will fit a (wait for it....) 1/4" round hole."
ReplyDeletedon't know, i'd keep the originals that you've got on there. they have this totally 1960s vietnam era avionics look about them, like you're about to lock onto a MIG with a saw wave
you really do need knobs on this thing. the only other guy who sold modulars without knobs is the guy from orgon. and where is he now?
ReplyDeleteAbout knobs.
ReplyDeleteFine, If you need knobs, find what you like, buy them, pull the caps off the pot shaft and put them on.
I refuse to pay $2-$3.00 per knob and charge at least twice that to you guys. Let's see, on this system, that's at least $174.00 I could charge you for a set of knobs I choose that you may not like. I'd rather cut that cost and let people find what they like if they don't like my choice. Since I don't charge for knobs, you're not paying for them. Take the extra cash and go knob shopping when you have the budget.
IMO, knobs are for tactile rotary control of a pot position. The caps do that very well.
If you don't know how to put knobs on a pot, there will be plenty of help available to assist you.
George Mattson
The "caps" are just fine for knobs - they feel fine and look fine. You'll see.
ReplyDeletemehme said...
ReplyDeleteMeh means rubbish. It means boring. It means not worth the effort, who cares, so-so, whatever. It is the all-purpose dismissive shrug of the blogger and messageboarder. And it is ubiquitous. On the I Love Music messageboard, for example, 4,010 separate discussion threads feature the use of "meh".
LOL copy & pasted from "The Guardian":
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,2026533,00.htmlbaf