via VAC:
"Roland JP8080 VS Modular Plan B Osc and Livewire Frequensteiner. Analog VS Digital! Round one. Yup I did a shoot out on a super basic sounds with a multimode filter. A basic SAW wav, Into the filter with the same env settings on each. Simple octave bass patch. Then I play with the filters while I record. Only Good ears will tell the difference. How it works, The first sound is High Pass Filter, Synth A then a pause then Synth B. The second sound is Lowpass Filter, Synth A then a pause then Synth B. The third sound is Bandpass Filter, Synth A then a pause then Synth B." click here if you want to play.
Wednesday, January 23, 2008
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ReplyDeleteOkay, I'm going out on a limb here. In the first sample for the low pass filter I think that Synth B is the JP8080. (Regardless of if I am correct, I prefer the sound of Synth A).
ReplyDeleteIn the second sample I think Synth A is the JP8080. (Regardless of if I am correct, I prefer the sound of Synth B).
Here's my guess.
ReplyDeleteLowpass:
A= JP8080
B=Plan B
Highpass:
A=JP8080
B=Plan B
Bandpass:
A=Pan B
B=JP8080
sounds to me like the one I think is JP8080 has less dynamics and more HF content. The Plan B is thicker and has that analog 'fuziness'
Hipass:
ReplyDeleteA: PlanB
B: JP
Lowpass:
A: PlanB
B: JP
Bandpass:
A: PlanB
B: JP
jp vs plan b
ReplyDelete#1 A analog
#2 A analog
#3 B analog
jp vs sh
#1 B analog
#2 A analog
I'm pretty sure that the samples with clicks on the attack are the JP8080.
ReplyDeletePlan B vs. JP
ReplyDeleteOn hipass hmmh.. the second one has much better stopband attunation, so guessing it's probably JP since a commercial digital synth would probably have proper hipass, The resonance also sounds a bit cleanish, plus if I guess right on the lowpass, it would be painful to get exact hipass on the analog side (it's hard enough with a modelled ladder in digital domain).
On lowpass the resonance gaindrop would probably give it away if one know either of the filters involved, but I'm not going to search and instead just guess that first is JP, since the second resonance sounds more natural. Too lazy to even fire spectrum analyzer now. Anyway, guessing a ladder design for the second filter (actually after I wrote that, I couldn't resist and check what the filter design for Livewire is, and seems to be a diode ladder).
The bandpass is tricky. From the steepness one would guess the second is JP if I got the hipass right, plus based on how the resonance sounds and how the second seems to click on some notes, it's analog first this time. Exact summing for perfect ladder bandbass response supports that anyway.
So in short:
Hipass: A = analog, B = JP
Lowpass: A = JP, B = analog
Bandpass: A = analog, B = JP
..
I just hope I got at least one of them right.
Let's try the other one..
The high notes are a joke. Either you have shitty sampling, or the first is analog, as the second aliases like crazy.
The low notes are tougher, but guessing it's the same and the first one is analog. To be honest though, had to load that one in host and apply some delay in order to decide.
So analog first here in both.
VAC is hexfix93, right?
ReplyDeleteIt´s funny, because some months ago I did a comparison here on Matrixsynth between the Andromeda and a System100M and I remember that hexfix93 said the sounds were not complex enough (I used dual oscs, FM, diferent envelopes, etc) and now he comes comparing simple sawtooth waves. You have no shame hexfix93!!!!
(I already voted, btw, not like you at that time, coward)
"If you actually have to guess which is which.. well that says everything."
ReplyDeleteIf you´re talking to me, where did I said the word "guess"???
Read again...
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ReplyDeleteGreat! I´ve got the golden ear prize here with me... ;) thanx hexfix93!
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