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Tuesday, February 05, 2008
ELP - Karn Evil 9 3rd Impression
YouTube via windhoek35.
Update: Skinny Puppy makes their first appearance ever at 2:11.
"Emerson, Lake & Palmer at the California Jam in 1974."
via steveo on the-gas-station
"Ooooo this footage is rare for several reasons - First it is extremely good quality footage from the legendary Cal Jam 74 festival.. Headlining were ELP (support acts included The Eagles , Black Sabbath and Deep Purple)....anyway for synth anoraks it is THE ONLY FOOTAGE of the Moog Constellation System being used. There was I believe only one system ever made and it was the forerunner to the polymoog...It was only ever recorded on ELP's Brain Salad Surgery Album...(the footage is a live performance of part of that album) - Of course also of note is Emmo giant Moog Modular which doubles as "the computer" ....lol...you see Emmo play the constellation right at the start then at about 2'50 ...theres more parts of this concert with better shots of the constellation (but not it being played)... Fabulous!"
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The Constellation is cool, no doubt, but man oh man prog has become painful for me 40 years down the road.
ReplyDeleteNot Tull though ;)
ReplyDeletetruly annoying music. my father insisted this was going to blow my mind if i just gave it a chance. cool gear pr0n tho. what's with all the gum chewing?
ReplyDeleteELP rule, definitely the best way to use synths ever :-P
ReplyDeleteThe popularity of ELP has allways been a bit of a puzzle to me, and this clip leaves me even more in the dark, haha. A relief though, to hear that I am not the only one who has a hard time listening to it.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I understand that the melodic quirkiness and cross-over-everything
ReplyDeleteaspect irritates a lot of people. I don't think it is stadium pop music so I don't really know why they became THAT big. I guess some critics just loved the experimental /classical aspects (which I adore) and others soon jumped on the bandwaggon so that ELP were hyped by the crowd. It definitely IS weird stuff, I agree, especially on Brain Sald Surgery ("Toccata" and such). How about MAGMA (fra)? Anyone? oops...
I hope they paid their roadies well.
ReplyDeleteI find Lake's gum chewing more annoying than the music...
ReplyDeleteI think they were sponsored by Hubba Bubba in '74...
ReplyDeleteaxel: It's obviously not stadium pop. This was a different era, and audiences were far more open to things then they are now. A Brittney Spears couldn't have made a living in music back then.
ReplyDeleteI seem to recall Mark Vail saying his book that three or four of the Lyra (the Constellation's mono synth) were built, but only one Apollo (the polysynth). Of course, there was one part of the Constellation setup that was wildly successful: the Taurus pedals.
Hobbit Rock.
ReplyDeleteAnd I still like it after all these years.
Kinda reminds me of watching the World Series or something with all that gum chewing... at least they don't spit :) Mmmm... Magma! I liked Magma Live and Mekanik Destructiv Kommandoh the best... how's everyones' Kobian?
ReplyDeletefor the record, STG Soundlabs modules are designed and built under the influence of a variety of music, and Emerson, Lake, & Palmer is pretty much right there at the top with Tangerine Dream.
ReplyDeleteit's totally Indie-OK to bash prog rock. it's one of the few styles of music that if you rag on the music journalists will agree with you, and is often wrongly accused of being the trigger of punk rock by people who forget about The Eagles.
this performance, the California Jam, is so beautiful and moving for me. this band was rocking out like there's no tomorrow because there really _was_ no tomorrow. literally. rock music had reached a natural end to development and rock music since has merely been a series of reactions and retro nostalgia of one form or another.
the DVD that this is from is pretty entertaining as well, mainly for the interview bits. it's a pretty crap documentary but hearing greg lake talk is always a hoot. you know the guy totally had lobsters in his bathtub. hearing these three guys in separate interviews talking about Tarkus is completely hilarious as well.
btw, when i said "merely" i wasn't trying to dismiss rock music since then. alot of music, rock or otherwise, very near and dear to me was made since then. i just feel that it was the terminus of a rail line that started when Chuck Berry walked into The Cosmopolitan in East St Louis and started playing with the Johnnie Johnson Trio.
ReplyDeletebtw, anyone who loves Magma or is amused by Magma needs to check out the Magma livejournal:
ReplyDeletehttp://users.livejournal.com/magma_/
i really didn't mean to offend by calling it annoying. i listen to plenty of annoying music myself. i think it's a " you had to have been there " kinda thing. the gum chewing is unforgivable though...
ReplyDeletehey man they're amusing as hell. the gum chewing is ridic.
ReplyDeleteProg rock (ELP in particular) annoys me because of the one-dimensional show of virtuosity (= speed) and pretensions of meaning (ELP in particular).
ReplyDeleteAlso, it's amusing that the giant Moog was basically a Minimoog with extra stuff for show.
Anyone catch the Skinny Puppy robot at 2:11. ELP taught the killing game first.
ReplyDeleteI'm a big Magma fan, and I thought that the fake Magma blog was about the funniest thing I've ever read on the internet.
ReplyDeleteyeah the Magma blog is hilariously funny
ReplyDeletepeterwendt,
ReplyDeleteit was not a "minimoog with extra stuff for show", if you want to play that game you need to actually say "minimoog with patch storage and a bunch of stuff for song-specific sounds for show," but you didn't because that would make it sound like there was a good reason for him to have the system. even a "regular" Moog system is pretty much "a big Minimoog" anyway because, well, there's a reason it's called a "mini" moog.
also the only "meaning" in ELP is going to be "let's have a good time," it's pretty obvious that most of the words are just there to give Greg something to sing because he'd sound like a twat if he was singing "ooh lah la ohoo hooWOOO" all night.
i'm a pretty rabid ELP fan and i've never heard anyone _in_ ELP or fans wax poetically about meaning. ELP was really all about the music, if you watched the documentary this was from you'd see that it was a band that came together for music, played music, and had arguments about music. all of their problems were directly related to _music_, and they really didn't concern themselves with what would be successful (their early success was a side-effect of the culture they happened within) or what would make them look good in public. in fact, their worst albums were made when they finally relinquished control to an ex-Whitesnake producer who pretty much tried (successfully for the most part) to take away all the elements which they are often criticised about.
also the bit about playing fast (?) always gets me. ELP were probably the sloppiest and un-chopsiest band of all the "prog rock" bands, and definitely are beaten in the notes-per-minute-and-accurate-at-that game by the modern neo-prog-metal bands or the college-educated saxophonist playing at your local coffee shop.
oh i forgot, there is some meaning in ELP.
ReplyDelete"Brain Salad Surgery" means "blowjob"
bands that have albums called "blowjob" always have a big stick up their ass and are just trying to impress you with their chops.
Absolutely love the studio album. That they could get anywhere close to sounding like it on stage in the 70s, is very impressive. I'm alittle embarrised by the critical crap I'm reading by the wanabes.
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