Title link takes you to a thread on the Moog Forums with some samples of the Little Phatty. They are also on the Little Phatty user's group, Phatsound, where you'll find more samples. via the comments of this post.
Saturday, September 02, 2006
Little Phatty Samples
Title link takes you to a thread on the Moog Forums with some samples of the Little Phatty. They are also on the Little Phatty user's group, Phatsound, where you'll find more samples. via the comments of this post.
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Don't be a playa hata', yo.
ReplyDeletei'll admit - it doesnt sound half bad, but the crippled UI just kills it
ReplyDeletedamn shame
I don't know. I think the UI will be fine. Press the obvious button you want and tweak. The buttons are lit so you know what's selected for the knob. The Voyager even has a bunch of stuff hidden in menus.
ReplyDeletehell you can edit a matrix 12 from a PC software, and thats a "fine" UI
ReplyDeletebut its not about editing - its about tweaking
you cant even tweak resonance and cutoff at the same time..
nuff said
(i meant matrix 1000)
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ReplyDeleteI know what you are saying though. There is a conceptual difference between pressing a button and then turning a knob vs. knowing and playing a dedicated knob. The more knobs the better, without a doubt. But if there were more knobs then the price would go up with that, so it's a trade off.
ReplyDeleteBut, at the same time, I wonder if nice juicy pots for each parameter would cost the same as four big digital encoders with LEDs all around them?
ReplyDeleteYeti: you really can tweak resonance and cutoff at the same time on the LP. Find something new to complain about.
ReplyDeletethree hands? no, but i have a sequencer
ReplyDeleteand live tweaking is one of the best parts about synths IMO
phatty isnt very capable at it.. in fact its woefully inadequate
and no, its not a "value" at the current price with plenty of real analog synths still being built with alot more knobs at comparable prices
wrong anon - get your facts straight
ReplyDeletei dont need anything new to complain about, its the same thing ive been saying, and its on the fucking moog website
Sound editing of continuous parameters (like Filter Cutoff) is done from the front panel by enabling a parameter with its switch (its LED becomes illuminated), and then adjusting its value control. There are 4 value controls, one for each section: Modulation, Oscillators, Filter, and Envelopes. Each is surrounded by a ring of 15 LEDs that show approximately the stored or edited value of the current parameter. The value controls are analog, and when a parameter is activated, the analog control signal is switched to directly control that parameter (RAC™ or Real Analog Control). For each section, only one continuous parameter can be activated at a time for editing. For parameters that have multiple possibilities (such as Mod Source) pressing that switch advances through the possible Mod sources. For On/Off type switches like Osc. Sync, the LEDs are On when that parameter is on or Off when the parameter is off.
if you dont like my complaints? TOO FUCKING BAD
hisssssss... *cat fight*
ReplyDeleteYeti.. you haven't played the phatty. I have. That's why I don't like your complaints; they are ignorant, which would be fine if they weren't also adamant and repetitive. It sounds like you haven't read the LP manual, or if you did you missed the fact that the mod wheel can be assigned to filter cutoff. Do that, use the RAC knob for resonance, and you are tweaking cutoff and resonance at the same time. Any other questions?
ReplyDeleteThen you can´t use the wheel for anything else. No, it´s not the same as dedicated knobs for cutoff and resonance.
ReplyDeleteMoog has fallen into the trap of previous synth companies: design a product, then release it for feedback.
ReplyDeleteThis was not how the old Moog company did things. Roland and Yamaha had enough products to bear any failures, but not sure about Moog. Chinese outsourcing and charging for fixing the Voyager aftertouch problem are signs of a company running on empty.
To be fair, Moog solicited mass feedback on the Voyager early on. If you were on the AH list you would have met a ton of people that were involved in that. Bob Moog asked what people wanted and applied that.
ReplyDeleteAs for the old Moog, let's not forget The Source.
Whoever keeps anonymously & humorlessly defending this so-called "Phatty" is really giving the anonymous Buchla defense squad a run for its money.
ReplyDeleteWhy complain so much about the Little Phatty? No-one is forcing you to buy one. Its not like an LP raped your mother or anything. Why don't you call 1-800-GET-A-LIFE, go buy another synth and practice your chops instead of posting thoughtless opinions?
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ReplyDeleteMoog solicited input on the Voyager.
ReplyDeleteI don't recall them doing it on the LP.
"This was not how the old Moog company did things." Was that you who said that? : )
ReplyDeleteFor the knob tweakers:
ReplyDeletePeople are picky about a synth's filter cutoff control. It must not sound "steppy" and it needs to be available at all times. Well, the LP has a CV input for step-free control of filter cutoff using an expression pedal or other controller (like a joystick controller or a CP-251).
Dedicated, step-free control of the filter cutoff. Oh, pitch and volume, too. Plus the 4 RAC knobs.
Isn't that good enough?
I don't think the knob steps though. They tout real analog control once you select the paramater to edit. Same on the Voyager.
ReplyDeletewow, lot of comments on this one. Just wanted to throw in that the stepless, RAC knobs are unique to the Phatty (among digitally-controlled analogues); even the Voyager does an ADC/DAC conversion between the panel controls and the analogue board. It runs at full 14-bit resolution though, so the steps are quite small.
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