Via Peter Grenader of Plan b:
"There are a few suprises coming for the month of May which include the release of THREE NEW PRODUCTS above and beyond the Model 26, and a major re-design of another module that's been released for some time. Included in these will be the Model 15A, the Model 28 and 28A
Model 28?
That's not a typo! The M28 has been kept a secret, even at Namm and Musikmesse... but not for much longer.
Keep an eye on the EAR site where they'll all be announced and released over the next four or so weeks.
- P"
Saturday, April 28, 2007
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M28 = EVIL TWIN...a colab between Plan B and Aphex Twin :-)
ReplyDeleteanon. said:
ReplyDeleteM28 = EVIL TWIN
Nope! That's the Model 11.
bwa-ha-ha-ha....
- P
An announcement that there will be an announcement? I'm announcing my next number. It's so secret I didn't even announce I was announcing it at NAMM. Keen an eye on my site. Next month I'll announce when I'm announcing what number I'll be announcing.
ReplyDeleteOh... I hope you don't notice some of my "production" numbers aren't available to purchase yet and have neither dates nor prices. That's to tell them apart from the "planned" modules.
D'oh. As excited as I am, I am equally annoyed considering I just bought two of the regular model 15's and now the improved version is coming out. I assume the main difference is the tracking being tighter and more accurate? Anything more info you could leak at this time Peter?
ReplyDelete"An announcement that there will be an announcement?"
ReplyDeleteI was going to post the same thing. SRSLY, WTF Plan B?!
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ReplyDeleteThe Model 15A is not a replacement VCO, it's an optional add-on product which can be incorporated onto any Model 15 ever shipped.
ReplyDeleteIf your VCOs aren't tracking, they are out of adjustment. On the bottom of the M15 page on the site there is a list downloadable reference materials, two of which will be of assistance to you: the 1V/oct tracking adjustment and a midi file we use to test calibration.
One thing I need to recommend to you - given you have more than 1 Model 15, when you make your tracking adjustment, do them both at the same time. It's important to set them up so they track each other together.
If your're still having problems then feel free to call us and we will be happy to assist or take the units in for repair if we need to.
I list modules in two categoreies on our site - Production and Planned. Production modules are either released, or in the process of being released, meaning at very least board art is designed and submitted for PCB manufacturing. If we haven't got them to market yet, they're coming soon and are all in various stages of production or already relased for sale.
ReplyDeletePlanned modules have had the circuits tested, designed on paper and are awaiting the time to bring them further into the process. You will see a number of new instruments released over the next three or so months. We may not get to them in the order everyone would like to see (me especially), but we're getting to them steadily.
Luckily for us these sort of announcements is not just a Plan B disease. We were not the first to do this, either - not by any means and there is something to say for pre-marketing. Without siting examples, one can go to a number of other modular manufacturer's sites and see products listed wihich haven't been released yet, many that have had working prototypes shown at more than one season of trade shows.
I appreciate your feedback - thanks for posting.
While I can't say I buy everything they've said the point Peter is making here is accurate. MOTM has had new modules listed and shown for four years you can't buy. Doepfer's touch keyboard has been at two Namm's I've been at and the A-149-2 both announced since before EAR was even around. They even keep a section of their homepage about new things. Livewire has the Chaos for two years and now a huge VCO. Cwejman just put things out they've been talking about. Buchla is shipping program inserts in their library with module numbers that don't exist. Peter's doing nothing here the others aren't already.
ReplyDelete"I assume the main difference is the tracking being tighter and more accurate?"
ReplyDeleteI've got a Model 15 and it tracks better than the other three VCO's I own that don't have octave switching. I am told this is the difference. An octave switch makes broad tracking easier. I can get six octaves out of the Model 15. They may dip a little in the middle but this makes them fat. Try adjusting them.
"SRSLY, WTF Plan B?!"
ReplyDeleteI did a little investigation and found a bunch of announced products which you can't yet buy. It is a disease.
Doepfer - Qty 12:
A-100 CV/Gate keyboard Standard, A-100 Touch Sensor Keyboard, A-100 CV/Gate Keyboard DIY version, A-183 Crossfader, A-138 Mix Expander, A-188-2 tapped BBD, A-100 Universal AD/DA Module, A-197-2 LCD scope, A-149-2 Random (?), A-143-9 Quadrature VCO, A-132-2 Quad VCA, A-111-2 Dynamic VCO
Livewire - Qty 7:
Chaos Computer, Random Gates, Analogue Computation, Sub Divider, Audio Frequency Generator (VCO), X-mod Controller, Audio Compositor
Plan B - Qty 6:
Model 25 Multi-tasking Audio Processor, Model 16 Timbral Multiplexer, Model 18 Stereo Mixer, Model 19 Gate Delay, Model 21 Milton, Model 23 ASR
MOTM Qty. 4:
500 VC Dual Pulse Divider, 510 Wavewarper, Cloud Generator, Envelope Nest, Rhythm Wheel
Cynthia - Qty 1:
The Cynthia Macintosh
Some of these have been announced for years. The MOTM stuff was in 2002!?!?! I still don't like it, but Peter's not the only one and not the worst.
Plan B showed up in June of 2005 with four products. Since August of last year we've brought to market five new ones: Model 1, Model 10, Model 14, Model 24, Model 26. We've doubled our product line in 8 months and built three others for trade shows. It's not like we're just announcing stuff without bringing it out. We had three people last summer, but operate with one other outside of myself on a regular basis. Cut us some slack.
ReplyDelete- P
BTW- the Model 27 Delay is held up on a licencing issue. As soon as we settle that, I'll begin it's process.
ReplyDeleteBack in the old days analog synths only had three or four octaves to their keyboards. Ever wonder why? Now everyone has midi to CV converters which can pull twice that amount and people comment why their analog VCOs don't track over that range. WTF?
ReplyDeleteRegarding the announcement about the announcement, that's standard. Same thing for Arturia, Roland, etc. It's called a teaser folks. Remember The Solaris?
ReplyDeleteRegarding the announcement of products that are not available for shipping, that's standard as well. Arturia Origen anyone? The Little Phatty and Voyager before that? Guys, you sound like you don't know synth.
ReplyDelete"The Model 15A is not a replacement VCO, it's an optional add-on product which can be incorporated onto any Model 15 ever shipped."
ReplyDeleteHmm...I'm intrigued. Is there anything else you could say about it at this time, Peter?
Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete"The Model 15A is not a replacement VCO, it's an optional add-on product which can be incorporated onto any Model 15 ever shipped."
Hmm...I'm intrigued. Is there anything else you could say about it at this time, Peter?
It adds some features to the Model 15 that people have been requesting.
- P
The Delay is being delayed :-)
ReplyDeleteyou could add the Spectralis to the list , it doesnt do everything it said it would yet
ReplyDelete"Back in the old days analog synths only had three or four octaves to their keyboards. Ever wonder why?"
ReplyDeleteI don't wonder why.
Price.
A keyboard action was the most expensive item.
Oscillator tracking had nothing to do with it.
anon said:
ReplyDeletedon't wonder why.
Price.
A keyboard action was the most expensive item.
Oscillator tracking had nothing to do with it.
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Price huh? How expensive is a keyboard octave switch? How many had them?
Yes, price.
ReplyDeleteArps often had transpose switches.
Moogs often had octave switches.
Both had oscillators that could track many octaves beyond the keyboards they supplied.
Price, not oscillator tracking ability.
This isn't my arguement, but I think you'll find that most of these octave switches were on the large part on the VCOs themselves, not on the keyboards as a global control. VCO octave switches allow the designer to change mutliple components in the core at once to increase the linearity range of the expo converter. Keyboard switches just apply voltage offsets, which of course increases the center voltage of the keyboard range, but do nothing to improve the linearity in the expo converter circuits. Most of the larg scale global keyboard transposition didn't start popping up till the CEM and SSM VCOs on a chip onslaught.
ReplyDeleteBut in those that had them in discrete component VCOS you must keep n mind the size of the keyboard and the range of the keyboard transpositionswitch. If you have a three octave keyboard with a octave up/down switch, this equals 5 octaves maximum spread, not hard to do in modern VCOs nor those form the 70's - a big difference form 10 octaves availiable in midi controllers (127/12 steps).
- P
I don't like to respond to anonymous posts on specific issues only bcause I could be talking to four people at once without knowing it and it makes problem solution that much more difficult. If you have questions regarding your VCO tracking, please either identify yourself here, or in another public forum where you'd like to re-direct this discussion or through a private email. That being said, I need to know how you are determining your tracking variance.
ReplyDelete1) Are you using a tuner?
2) Are you using a frequency counter?
3) Do either of these use a microphone as an input?
4) How are they connected, meaning is the VCO going straight into the measuring device,what type of connectors are being used, etc?
5) What waveform are you measuring?
6) Are you montioring the amplitude of the signal going into the measuring device - you can overdrive these inputs easily well before you hear any distortion and get incorrect readings as a result.
7) You mention there's a 20 cent deviation - where does that start, where does it end - you supply data in regards to the measurements you're seeing.
For these reasons - we opt to use the test device which will generally be used more often when using the synth - our ears. Our VCOs have a cent variance, all analog VCOs do - but it's not more than 3 cents n the high end. Please give us some figures to go off off.
Thanks.
- P
Thanks Peter. To others asking questions, although I do appreciate Peter dropping by, he by no means should have to. These questions might be better suited for the Plan b list. You can join it here.
ReplyDeletea) I have shipped over 250 MOTM-510 WaveWarpers. *PLEASE* don't spout off about things you do NOT understand. It makes you look really clueless.
ReplyDeleteb) The Envelope Nest/Rhythm Wheel were *never announced*. These are conceptual modules/ideas that I have been waiting for the hardware to catch up. Both of these are subsets of what I call the AudioEngine concept. They were on the website as future modules. And, the poster has obviously not been to www.synthtech.com since Jan 2006 because there is a null tag for future modules just because of this type of nonsense.
c) The Cloud Generator was posted then removed, again because I redesigned it based on AudioEngine versus "hard coded" in the ICs. The VC Pulse Divider is coming out, I decided to use the original concept (dual PIC uPs) over AudioEngine for cost. It will be released after the MOTM-1300 VCO in Frac.
Again, before stating things as facts , please get your facts straight.
Paul Schreiber
Synthesis Technology