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"Dual Mounted Modified Devices Offer a Fully Modular Independently Arrayed Open Patch System With Momentary Engage Buttons, Selectable Engagable Step Busses, & a Versatile Variable Speed / Length / Step / Patch Sequencer System with Unusual Timing Features like the Chaos Modifier, Freeze, & Freeze & Step Settings. Simply Put This Crazy Thing Will Generate All Manner of Unique Raymond Scott Karloff & Electronium Or Krell Musical Effects that Will Blow You Mind ! Patch Your other gear Right in with Ease and Use Any Part Of the Sequencer System to Glitch or Cross Glitch Any Number Of Bent Devices in Tru e modern Modular Synth Style. 1950's Retro Sci-Fi Modern."
Cripes! Wonder what she sounds like?
ReplyDeleteFurby being raped by a vacuum cleaner?
If it weren't so darned expensive, I might be tempted!
You would have to be completely insane to pay that much for a circuit bent sk1.
ReplyDelete$550? Is the seller insane?
ReplyDeleteI know the dollar has collapsed, but geez, it's not the peso.
$550 for an SK-1 is a lot, but I've started thinking about these things in terms labor costs.
ReplyDeleteI just finished my own Junior 106 (inspired by Henrik Nydell and buying a $75, beat-up, two-dead-voices Juno from local Craigslist) and it took me WAY longer than I thought it would.
If I value my time at $20/hr (not sure if that's even a realistic estimate), my Junior is worth more than $550 just from a labor costs.
So looking at this SK-1, I'll bet someone put it more than 25 hours doing it, so that price might be reasonable (if you neglect other market factors, of course).
so is the conclusion that circuit bending is not worth it, since the time spent is more than the value of the result?
ReplyDeletevaluation and price are not necessarily the same exact thing.
ReplyDeleteI have 3 bent SK-1's...would never dream of paying that much for another one.
ReplyDeleteReaktor is $200. End of story.
agreed that price and valuation are not the same. I'll bet the outcome of this auction will validate that...though some ebay prices lately have seemed wildly inflated, who knows?
ReplyDeleteThsi guy didn't ebven build it, so there is no labor involved. This was on ebay about a year ago. Check this guys feedback. He just buys pre-circuit bent stuff and then resells it. Pretty lame if you ask me. Plus the whole point of circuit bending is actually bending the units yourself and learning from the experience, not buying some pre-built unit because circuit bending is the new trendy thing and you're not hip unless you have something that is bent.
ReplyDelete"so is the conclusion that circuit bending is not worth it, since the time spent is more than the value of the result?"
ReplyDeleteI think circuit bending is worth it IF YOU DO IT YOURSELF! Buying stuff on ebay for ungodly prices is not only ridiculous, but it is against what circuit bending used to stand for. All of the commercialisation and people on ebay trying to make a buck off this stuff is disgusting.
I wonder if Reed Ghazala is starting too regret ever putting out his book now that all the diagrams in it are being used by ebay snakes and opportunists to make a buck. This essentially equates to stealing. If someone slones an SSL and lists it on ebay, ebay immeiately cancels the auction since the original design is not theirs. I think they should do the same with people copying other peoples circuit bent designs and trying to sell them, though it would be hard to police.
This stuff is easy to do folks. A monkey could do it, why not stop being lazy and bend stuff for yourself. I think the comment about people buying this stuff because it is currently trendy and hip to own bent stuff is completey right. The trend will eventually fade and the true benders will still be around and all of the opportunists will move on to the next trendy dollar making ploy and all of the hipsters will move on to the next trend.
"So looking at this SK-1, I'll bet someone put it more than 25 hours doing it, so that price might be reasonable (if you neglect other market factors, of course)."
ReplyDeleteBut let's not forget that value is reflective of what it's worth to OTHERS, not to yourself.
I've spent 100 hours breaking these shoes in, but that doesn't make them worth $2K.
nicely put, anon^^
ReplyDeleteenjoying your allegorical take on the evidentiary process and sly country club humor ---this fine sunday morning! Good thread indeed. i must, however, take offense to the idea that circuit bending is some kinda extended personal metaphor--- only 'pure' if you do it yourself. That kind of self important deterministic ideal is only fit for animals or, maybe, beasts! Maybe(!)...beasts. But ...machinery? No. not ever!
Joey, King of The Streets signing off here
Well I would agree that people who buy pre-circuit bent stuff to be cool are just posers.
ReplyDeletesome people don't have the time to have something circuit bent nicely..
ReplyDeletethey could spend a whole let less coming up with their original device but they are going to spend alot of time and money in the process trying to figure out and hone their circuit bending skills. this involves trial and error and unfortunately money.. ask anyone who's built anything or protyped and instrument.. it takes time and money.
it isn't necessarily about the diy aesthetic of building so much as it is for some musicians looking for sounds and not willing to get into learning how to solder, time involved, etc etc.. things take time and there's only so much one can dedicate to certain things.