Sunday, August 19, 2007
Genoqs Octopus Demonstration
YouTube via ripe909. Sent my way via Cikira.
"Programming the melody for Ferry Corsten's "Rock Your Body Rock" in under 2:30."
genoQs Octopus and Roland JP8080
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hmmm. not the greatest demo. I don't exactly get a good sense of what occurred there & why I'd need &/or want the octopus to play a simple melody line like that. Frankly that took way too long to input the melody imo.
ReplyDeleteUnderwhelmed.
ReplyDeleteMPC1000 4 lyfe.
wow, took a lot of faffing about just to do a simple melody, I like the look of the Genoqs but if it takes that much effort to do something so simple whats the point of it?
ReplyDeleteyep, exactly. i love hardware analog styled sequencers as i own a couple but there's something to be said for being able to play a bit of piano and being able to lay that crap down in about 2.3 seconds instead of 2:30 minutes.
ReplyDeleteI had some nice demos from the octopus developer and it's really a great machine.
ReplyDeleteNot my kind of thing but this is really a workhorse in a midi enviroment.
terrible! what a cryptical machine...
ReplyDeleteI am forever cured of GAS for one of these.
ReplyDeleteI've been looking at this thing for months now in awe of its appearance - this display is just disappointing and boring.
ReplyDeleteWhere's the immediacy?
I bought one of those Schrittmacher's from Manikin, and it's altogether different and quite immediate and awesomely super awesome.
ReplyDeleteThe Octopus looks about as much fun to program as my old MC-4. It also looks like it takes a whole lot of studio real-estate too for an instrument that's not mostly about live input.
ReplyDeleteOne less machine to pine after.
I've got a schrittmacher, too, but I don't find it to be very immediate. I DO like it, but it has its share of roundabout-ed-ness. For instance, you have to stop the playback to add "note" lines.
ReplyDeleteUmm... This is just someone punching in a very specific tune. I've heard nothing but good things from owners of it. You can hit play and just tweak away like a standard analog sequencer no? That's where the real fun comes in.
ReplyDeleteOctopus also has the option of realtime recording, which would be much quicker. Also everything can be done while the sequencer is playing.
ReplyDeleteThis is my video demonstration. It was meant to show some basic usage of the octopus, it really is an awesome machine.
ReplyDeleteI have only seen other demonstrations which highlighted the "pretty lights" so I wanted to show entry of something very specific using various features. I will try and post a secondary video that shows some more powerful capabilities for tweaking etc in realtime.
cheers
ripe
This is a very bad demo. The person should learn more before he publish such demo music.
ReplyDeleteThe Octopus is a great(est) musical midi sequencer but this demo is (sorry) shit.
Thanks for this video JK.
ReplyDeleteIt's easy to said, this is bad... But to all this guys, show us what you do with your Octopus before saying anything !
Everywhere we read "this machine is great", "it's fantastic" but when it's time to find some example, some videos, there is nothing...
JK keep going and show us more video with real time modifications...
cheers
oXo
x0x,
ReplyDeleteexactly, I wanted to show a basic demonstration of actual usage, that could be easily understood without reading the manual.
If I took a video of a pre-programmed song and multiple tracks, pages, effectors etc. it may sound (and look) better, but most people wouldn't know what the heck was going on, except a bunch of blinking lights.
As great as the Octopus is, it doesn't magically spit out songs, and anyone faced with *using* it will have to come to grips with all the capabilities it offers. My demo was meant to show what is possible by just flicking the ON switch and starting to work.
Most people would still be waiting for a PC to boot, or setting up routing, etc in the time the octopus was already playing a usable sequence.
cheers
ripe
Good God. Another Octopus owner here. These comments are making me laugh, but at the same time feel like there's going to have to be a court hearing to clear our "client" of this faulty murder charge.
ReplyDeleteI agree about the lack of videos around..something I need to squeeze in between music projects I guess. This may be the extra push to re-prioritize that for the good of the small Genoqs family the the wunderbeast that is the Octopus.
Here's something that took a few seconds to make..showing that if you chain the tracks and shorten the step length..you can have each row run at different divisions the clock rate.
Quick and ugly. ha ha
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=12415800
Another Octopus owner here...I'm somewhat of a analog-style sequencer fanatic, and have used, at one time or another, quite a few of them. There is nothing like the octopus. A lot of thought went into this, and some of its difficulty comes from the fact that experience on some of the simpler machines doesn't prepare you for how to use the octopus. I've encouraged them to put out a good tutorial, or a video that walks you through some of the basic features. Is it immediate? Well, I find it so. Very much. Does it have a learning curve? Well, to really get your head around the advanced features, how everything and the various modes fits together, and develop your own style of working? Very much so. But I find it exciting. As far as there being good videos available now, which of the higher end sequencers have great demos available? Isn't that somewhat of a problem with gear like this in general?
ReplyDeleteBetween a Schrittmacher and the Octopus are a long way to go. The Schrittmacher is more a studio device with pre-programmed sequencer lines for live situation. The Octopus is a musical machine which you can use much more flexible and quicker/intuitive in Live situations because of its matrix field and page structure in combination with all the manipulator functions. You can never do this with a Schrittmacher on the fly. And you can play 9 pages with 10 Tracks each in all kinds of combinations in parallel.
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