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Wednesday, August 15, 2007
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$4,000 for a nonworking synth with major cosmetic damage, plus $780 in shipping? Where's the Buy It Now button?
ReplyDeleteBy the way, those things are only worth around$2,500... when they work. And good luck keeping those VCOs calibrated.
The only polyphic tone you will hear when this thing is delivered to your door is the sound of you cursingg yourself while sobbing.
i disagree ted! you're saying that a working PS 3200 is worth less in today's market than an arp 2600? come on this is 2007, and globally it's been a sellers market for quite some time now...
ReplyDeletei agree w/you that this price is high for a non working example, but working is worth at least 4k...
jgeebus: I'm not saying that a PS 3200 isn't a rare synth. I've never even seen one outside various synth websites. And I can't say it's a bad synth. If it sounds like a fully-polyphonic MS-20, then it's probably a wonderful synth.
ReplyDeleteAnd I know people put up autions with borderline obscenely high starting prices for classic gear, and people buy them.
But this same synth has been up for auction before at the same price, same seller, and No One Bid On It.
People fork over $3,000 for, say, decent-condition Minimoogs, because there's a slice of people who used them, sold them for digital gear, and regretted it. Plus other generations of synth freaks who have been enchanted by all the mythology (and sound).
But who in this world fondly remembers the Korg PS 3200, which is obscure studio arcana?
Doesn't this thingie use octave dividers?
ReplyDeleteIs that the same sound generation mechanism as the MS-20? I thought it wasn't and that the PS-3200 sounds different.
Somebody please correct me if I'm mistaken.
all this trolling and whinging about prices is getting boring, especially when uninformed and false. You should do some research before undermining legitimate sellers auctions. If you search the matrixsynth archives you will see the last auction from this seller was for a non-working PS-3300, and it sold for $7500US. The last working PS-3300 on ebay sold for 9,500Euros, also can be found in Matrix's archives. Working PS-3200s often sell in the collectors market for a great deal more than the $4000 asking price. If its not worth the money to you thats fine, but you should be more careful not to make false statements about things you clearly have no knowledge of.
ReplyDeleteBought my PS-3200 for $3300 ten years ago. Mine is in pristine condition and also has the ultra scarce remote programmer. Korg only produced a couple hundred of these.
ReplyDeleteBased on people who are willing to pay more than $3000 for a heavy damaged PS-3100, the $4000 for this one may be a steal. Unless there is a broken filter, repair is easy on these. On the other hand repair will requires many hours. Add at least $2000 for getting this one back to pristine condition.
The PS-3200 is heavy. Since this seller sides in Australia, the $780 may be on the upper end but not outrageous. Keep in mind that he/she is willing to ship worldwide. I bought my PS-3300 in Europe and shipping was between $400-$500 back then.
None of the PS (3100, 3200, 3300) sounds like an MS-20. However there are some similarities. Yes there are octave dividers.
More amazing none of the PS sounds like the other one! The 3100 is can produce extreme weird sounds, ideal for experimenting. The possibilities on the 3200 are a little more limited due to the programming capabilities. The PS-3200 is an excellent string machine. The PS-3300 sounds just plain simple fat in addition of the experimental possibilities of the 3100.
A lot of people prefer the 3200 of the PS-series. Since it is almost impossible to find another PS-3300 (only 40-50 produced), I believe the PS-3100 is the best of the family.
While everyone tries to get that over-used Mini Moog (13000 produced; source Keyfax) sound many musician want to move away from the mainstream. Adding such unique instruments to your setup can be very rewarding.
Well, turns out people have been paying lots of money for this synth. I take your points. I looked up the value on Vintagesynth.com, clearly out-of-date.
ReplyDeleteBut I still maintain that forking over nearly 5 grand for a broken, scratched-up analog synth, however rare, is something I don't understand. And I think it's this kind of inflation that keeps vintage stuff well over the heads of musicians without massive budgets. And old and tired argument, but one I have to make.
A little gasping over the price isn't undermining an auction. I got my research worng about the average value ($2,000 - $3,000 according to VS)
Anyone seriously in the market for a PS-3200 won't be dissuaded by some broke, jealous dude on a blog comment. I'm sure I didn't dent the chances of this relisting getting a bid.
If an auction can be truely be sunk by one guy "trolling and whinging" then clearly there's a lack of salemanship and, just maybe, actual value.
Besides, I wasn't trying to troll here. I'm honestly perplexed by the cash some people ask for - and drop on - busted synths.
"But I still maintain that forking over nearly 5 grand for a broken, scratched-up analog synth, however rare, is something I don't understand."
ReplyDeleteWhat if it was only $5? I'm sure that $5 compared to my total assets is the equivalent of $5000 to someone else's. It's all relative and the sellers probably are aware of this.
Matrix: Yes, I'd buy it for $5, which feels very much like $5,000 to me this week.
ReplyDeleteI suppose there's no argument that will deflate this upward market drift. Cats with cash drop it on pricey items. Some synths are not only greater than the sum of thier broken parts, they are a sport to acquire.
I'm the reason why they invented analog modeling.
$5? ill give you $3 for it, but you've gotta pay for the shipping.
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