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Analog Factory Keyboard
via Tom of Music Thing and Alex. Both had a little hands on experience with the Analog Factory Keyboard.
Tom: "I played one today at AES - nice wood!"
Alex: "I had a go on a demo one today - feels really solid, and does everything it says on the tin."
Looking at that Analog Factory pic, I thought they were offering two styles of keyboard controller. Then I realized it's just the one controller, but for some odd reason they chose to make the one on the computer look different from the real one. Weird.
ReplyDeletePicture says ORIGIN, not ORIGEN. ;-P
ReplyDeleteI bet, now that they're hardware, they won't even be able to emulate the sounds of their old VST's.
ReplyDeleteIt's like the people at this company listen to synths through old telephones when modeling.
We get that you don't think much of Arturia. Care to offer some samples to demonstrate your point? Identical patches on two different originals and the Arturia model, say?
ReplyDeletearturia is ok, i always think dsp will only get better. it's shown a lot of improvement over the years. i just wish companies would keep updating their products.
ReplyDeleteimagine rebirth 5.0 it would have been great by now. no samples either. their dsp guy did a drum synth for charity and he still hasn't done one for propellerheads.
you get the point i always expect to see companies stick with something until they get it right. it would be more intresting than watching them let the product get dated and say "no one cares about this stuff anymore!" they're only half right.
An old telephone would introduce a pleasing bandpass filter into the equation.
ReplyDeleteconvoythecat said "arturia is ok, i always think dsp will only get better."
ReplyDeleteYou're right there... whilst digital technology seems to have hit a clock speed limitation, there's still much to accomplish by way of parallelisation - and synthesis / DSP lends itself to this insanely well. When you have the major CPU/GPU manufacturers talking about bringing 80, or 128, or more cores onto a die by the end of the year, you can start to think about one core per voice (like the Ion, only with cores much faster and better-equipped than the humble AL3101, and many more of them). Or even one core per module, for a soft modular... at that point, component-level simulation becomes feasible.
Exciting times await. :)
Gwenhwyfaer:
ReplyDelete> We get that you don't think much of Arturia. Care to offer some samples to demonstrate your point?
Others have done pretty much that already. Esp. with the Jupiter. Plus, I have the benefit of working ears, which seems to help.
They make nice VA's, but they seem to do one of the worst jobs of 'accurate' emulation around. To me, it's a bit like if Rob Papen were to make a new Juno 60 skin for Albino, and market it that way.
Maybe the universe you live in is different, and we can only communicate through this delicate textual quantum bridge.
I dunno. Their Moog stuff certainly sounds Moog-ish to me. I can't vouch for any of their other synths. I have CS-80V but couldn't tell you how accurate a clone it is.
ReplyDeleteThe sounds on their own don't have the sparkle or shine of a real analog synth but in a mix it's very hard to tell the difference. I have been fooled many times.
ReplyDeleteDF:
ReplyDelete> Maybe the universe you live in is different, and we can only communicate through this delicate textual quantum bridge.
When I posted initially, I predicted that your response to being asked to back your claims would be to mount a personal attack. Thank you for reaffirming my faith in my own intuition; but just in case you were under the illusion that this was an acceptable response, listen up.
I didn't claim that Arturia's emulations were accurate, or otherwise. I didn't make any claim at all. In view of that, it shouldn't be necessary to state this, but if someone from Arturia were posting here and said "no, our emulations are all but identical to the synths we used as models" I'd be making the same request of them as I made of you.
Even if I have formed my own opinion - until I state it, you have no grounds for assuming you know what it is. The person asking you to support your claims may even agree with them: they may be seeking information you have but they don't; they may be wondering whether you're simply parroting claims made by others out of a desire to belong to the group; they may be wishing to reality-check their own perceptions.
You did make a claim, so the responsibility to back it up lies with you. All I did was ask you to do so; my responsibility is to investigate the support you offer.
And at the moment, I don't have anything I can check.
Meeting a request for support with hostility is not the same as supporting your claim. Such tactics are used to evade the requirement to support claims, not to provide support - and evasion demonstrates a reluctance to support... the implication to be drawn from which is inability to support.
Especially when in this case, supporting your claim would be as easy as simply pointing me in the direction of the "other people" you mention.
has anyone sat down with a new roland lately? why does a keyboard that might not keep my mother intrested look like a juno?
ReplyDeleteif anyone can be offended by arturia there should be riots at the retailers over the crap roland has been putting out,