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"This is my attempt at getting the Micron to sound like the Drone Commander. Apart from the sound of the filters, I couldn't get the variable shape LFO thing happening either. The Micron has saw and pulse shape LFOs, but I think the Drone Commander's shape knob allows you to morphs between the two LFO shapes. This can't be done on a micron. I have to get one of those things. They're beautiful music objects.
ericarcher.net/devices/drone-commander/"
11hz Robot - Form Change from 11hzRobot on Vimeo.
"This session features the Micron's distortion. I'm no distortion expert so I don't know if its any good."
The Micron's distortion is applied to each voice individually, so it's more like a hexafuzz than sticking it through a chunky amp.
ReplyDeleteAs for the LFOs, the Micron is fairly unusual in that you can use each of its LFOs' waveforms simultaneously. So maybe assign the saw and square outputs to the same place in the mod matrix, then use a knob or mod wheel to crossfade between them with another couple of mod routings, perhaps?
hexafuzz?...something new to read about today. thanks.
ReplyDeleteI've got a saw and square lfo assigned to Filter 1 freq(a lowpass) and also to Filter 2 freq(a high pass). 0% of F1 to F2 (simulates the Commander's low and high range filters which seem to functions in parallel, not serially). Both LFOs set to 100% M1 control (this allows control of both lfo's depth) Finally the high pass and low pass filter freq are also assigned/controlled manually by one of the Micron rotary knobs.
I just tried you cross fade lfo idea by assigning lfo 1 M1 amount to M2 slider, and the same for lfo2 and adjusting the offset and amount for each. I like it. I'm not sure it is cross fading, but I may need to dial it in better. I'll be trying different mod matrix routing to see if I can get it right. Good idea, thanks.
You can use the tracking generator to create custom LFO waveshapes. Dunno about morphing them, though.
ReplyDeletetypo: I meant to say I tried assigning LFO 1 ammount to M2 slider, not LFO1 M1 amount to M2 slider.
ReplyDeleteI have tried the tracking generator for drawing waveforms, but morphing between to shapes is the tough part. The crossfade idea might work, I have to mess with it some more though.
I'm not even sure that is what the drone commander's shape knob does. The documentation says
"variable shape LFO (saw - pulse) with up/down slope control"
I've watched the demo vids a bunch of times to try and see if it a gradual saw - pulse morph or a either or switch that is controlled by the shape knob. It is tough to tell. I guess I'll just ask Mr. Eric Archer.
One other possibility to chuck in the mix: the LFO might even be a decay generator being retriggered, with the decay varying between something long enough to make the decay look like a sawtooth and a very brief blip. From looking at the controls, I couldn't help but think "yeah, I'd have done it like that". Heaven knows how you'd implement that... although the envelope generators might be a place to start.
ReplyDeleteYou nailed it...I got this explanation from eric archer about the nature of the LFO:
ReplyDelete"the shape control varies the LFO slope. clockwise, full contour LFO, like a sawtooth rotate toward counterclockwise, the LFO spends more time at one limit, then transitions at a faster rate.
all the way CCW, its just a quick blip at the end of the LFO cycle. push/pull the shape knob for rising/falling LFO"
and yeah I've been messing around with the filter envelop...setting it to loop attack decay, then messing with the times. Still working on it. It is not quite there. I've been saving some cool patches in the process of trying to figure it out though.
"the shape control varies the LFO slope. clockwise, full contour LFO, like a sawtooth rotate toward counterclockwise, the LFO spends more time at one limit, then transitions at a faster rate.
ReplyDeleteall the way CCW, its just a quick blip at the end of the LFO cycle. push/pull the shape knob for rising/falling LFO"
==> Sounds like phase distortion principle from CZ serie osc waveform generation.