TESTING ableton LINK on 12 iPads

Published on Jan 1, 2016 DigiEnsemble Berlin

"We used the following musical apps
* Patterning [iTunes]
* ElasticDrums [iTunes]
* MoDrums [iTunes]
* KORG iKaossilator [iTunes]
* Fugue Machine [iTunes]
and a WIFI-Device.

There are many more apps supporting LINK out now :-)

The new Ableton LINK works very stabile and on time.

This was just a TESTING for many more musical pieces in 2016! We are excited about this new possibilities for mobile music making.

THX Finn Dorian for the camera walk.
Music and Concept by Matthias Krebs and Marc Godau from the DigiEnsemble Berlin.

More:
http://digiensemble.de"

DigiEnsemble Berlin Premiers "Apps on Stage" - Documentary & Thoughts on the Use of iPads Live

Published on Apr 7, 2014 DigiEnsemble Berlin·22 videos

Matthias of DigiEnsemble Berlin sent this in and asked me for my thoughts on the use of iPads as live instruments on stage. You'll find my thoughts further below along with some images of DigiEnsemble Berlin.

Video description: "This short documentary by Andrea Wieczorek and Lukasz Fabijanczyk gives an insight into the musician's preparation for their performance on stage. Of course, technical problems and the quest for the perfect sound play a central role, but also if the musicians themselves can hear properly on stage, as they will play live without playback.

Playing an authentic and dynamic performance turned out to be the most difficult part of performing with apps on stage. Motion and choreography are a crucial part of that. Music apps don't turn into in instrument by a simple "touch" -- motion sensors and an expression pedal, which controls the volume, can create a dynamic sound. And last but not least: The musicians also do not want to come across as a bunch of computer nerds, as well...

'Apps on Stage' shows snippets from the DigiEnsemble Berlin's everyday life on tour to Munich and reveal problems and details that have to be taken into account when making music with Apps on stage. More shows and information about the DigiEnsemble Berlin can be accessed here: http://digiensemble.de

_Credits
Production: Andrea Wieczorek & Lukasz Fabijanczyk
Camera: Lukasz Fabijanczyk
Videomusic: Michaeu da Silver & Bujanylas
Location: Munich
Date: April 10, 2013"

Matthias of DigiEnsemble Berlin asked me: "What do you think, will there be in future more musicians with apps on stage? I think the most complex thing is: How to play on mobile devices in a way that the people love the show as a musical performance – not as a technical gimmick."

My response: As for the iPad as a commonplace viable instrument, I think it is finally reaching that stage with electronic artists, however for more classical performances I believe it will remain a bit of a gimmick for some time. I don't expect it to become any more acceptable than hardware synthesizers in that world. In time it will just be perceived as another form of electronic hardware synthesis. I remember when I first posted the iPad and how excited I was thinking of it as the modern day PPG Realizer. I stated it would revolutionize things as although it is essentially a new computer platform to run software synthesizers, it is closer to a hardware synth than any desktop or laptop computer. Digital hardware synthesizers are simply software synths running on a dedicated hardware. The iPad is no different.

BACH: Aria "Großer Herr" on mobile devices - by DigiEnsemble Berlin featuring Tobias Berndt

Making of: BACH Aria "Großer Herr" on mobile devices - recording session

Published on Dec 29, 2013 DigiEnsemble Berlin·22 videos

"This video is a documentation of the recording process of the aria on 11th of september 2012.

The DigiEnsemble Berlin exclusively uses digital devices to perform the aria "Großer Herr, o starker König" from the famous and glorious Christmas Oratorio by Johann Sebastian Bach, sung by Tobias Berndt.

The final version of the aria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF9h6W...

The entire sound is created on the digital devices themselves. Therefore, three apps run simultaneously. These are "ThumbJam" as a sampler for all instruments, "Geo Synth" as the instrumental surface and "MIDI In Motion" as a motion controller of volume (Schwehn has provides us with a beta version), connected via virtual midi.

-- Background
For two years, the DigiEnsemble Berlin has explored the opportunities of mobile music. This aria, however, is a very important step in the course of the musicians' quest, due to the high qualitative aspiration and requirements of the piece. The DigiEnsemble Berlin physically premiers the piece together with the singer Roman Trekel at the Berlin Cathedral on the 16th December 2012.

The realization of the musically challenging aria is a culmination for the mission of acquiring virtuous playing techniques with smartphones. Matthias Krebs chose this aria consciously with the intention of accomplishing a signifying step in the ensemble's development. Experts like music professors from the Berlin University of the Arts were consulted to optimize the musical adaption and musical interpretation.
Furthermore, the technical level was enhanced by utilizing a number of elaborate controllers. An important sound quality improvement for this musical interpretation was enabled by a new motion control app called "MIDI In Motion" by Florian Schwehn. In the process of the project, the digital devices became serious musical instruments on a high level of proficiency and differentiation that has not been reached before.

-- Keep track
http://facebook.com/DigiEnsemble
http://twitter.com/digiensemble
and on our website website http://digiensemble.de"

TimeShape - Contemporary App Music @Berlin Cathedral 6|6|2013

Published on Dec 4, 2013 DigiEnsemble Berlin·19 videos

Follow-up to Higgs - Contemporary App Music @Berlin Cathedral 6|6|2013

"'Time Shape' by Puya Shoary is a musical composition that can be stylistically categorized as Minimal Music. First it may sound simple: Every musician is following two different rhythmic motifs. However, the different rhythms combined evolve into a complex sound structure. This sound structure is modified with the use of effects by another musician, while the whole piece is floating between eleven loudspeakers spread all around the cathedral's arch.

The DigiEnsemble Berlin used an Ableton Live-Patch controlled by Konkret Performer (iOS).

-- Anniversary Concert at Berlin Cathedral on 6|6|2013
The DigiEnsemble's performance of Bach's Christmas Oratorio played on mobile devices only at the Berlin Cathedral in 2012 was a huge success. In celebration of the Berliner Dom's 20 year anniversary, the cathedral's organist Andreas Sieling and the DigiEnsemble paired up and gave their first concert together on June 6, 2013.

For the anniversary show, the musicians composed four pieces. Their intention was to experiment with the sound possibilities of the cathedral's interior architecture. They used 12 loudspeakers, placed all around the cathedral, and created new sounds as "frozen echoes" and "fluid music" (rainshower in the dom).

# 1 Fusions - a piece by Uwe Schamburek | soundart
# 2 TimeShape - a piece by Puya Shoary | spatial music
# 3 Quell-Klang - a piece by Daniel Grote | soundart
# 4 Higgs - a piece by Nico Steckhan | soundart
and
# 5 Bach: Air - performed by cathedral organist Andreas Sieling with Uwe Schamburek, Matthias Krebs and Daniel Grote

It's with great thanks to Audiofly Soundtec GmbH for the technical support. http://www.audiofly.eu/

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Higgs - Contemporary App Music @Berlin Cathedral 6|6|2013

Published on Nov 30, 2013 DigiEnsemble Berlin·17 videos

"Anniversary Concert at Berlin Cathedral on 6|6|2013

A Contemporary App Music piece by Nico Steckhan | soundart
various Apps like SampleTank, Beatmaker2, iDensity (iOS) an Ableton Live-Patch played by DigiEnsemble Berlin

---- DigiEnsemble Berlin ----
Matthias Krebs
Uwe Schamburek
Daniel Grothe
Puya Shoary
Nico Steckhan
Stefan Meinking
Johannes Wolff
Miriam Akkerman
Kathleen Kinzel
with Andreas Sieling

camera
Liesa Rademacher
Joanna Podkowa
David Gion Müller
Björn Richie Lob
Lukasz Fabijanczyk

cutter
Lukasz Fabijanczyk

producer
Matthias Krebs

contact and follow us on
http://digiensemble.de
http://facebook.com/digiensemble
http://twitter.com/digiensemble
http://youtube.com/digiensemble
http://flickr.com/digiensemble"

DigiEnsemble Berlin - Laboratorium 6|6|2013

Published on Jul 6, 2013 DigiEnsemble·19 videos

"The DigiEnsemble Berlin - Laboratory
The Musicians from the DigiEnsemble Berlin played an exclusive event in cooperation with the Berlin Cathedral organist Andreas Sieling in June 2013. The video shows a little insight into the experimental part of the event.

More info and videos coming soon...

http://digiensemble.de // http://digiensemble.com
http://facebook.com/digiensemble
http://twitter.com/digiensemble"

Mobile Music Making @Berlin Summer University of the Arts

Published on May 29, 2013 DigiEnsemble·21 videos

"Making music on iPhone, iPad, Samsung and Nexus with music apps?
Some excellent music apps offer users innovative digital musical instruments and remarkable music creation platforms. I want to invite you to an international App Music seminar that takes place from July 29th to August 2nd at the Berlin Summer University of the Arts.

date: July 29th-August 2nd 2013
place: UdK Berlin, Bundesallee 1-12
fee: 400 € (from June 10th 2013: 420 €)
no. of participants: 12 to 15
language: English
application deadline: July 1st 2013

online registration: http://www.udk-berlin.de/summer-courses

more information: http://www.udk-berlin.de/sites/sommer..."

DigiEnsemble Berlin spielt im Berliner Dom am 16. Dezember 2012

Published on May 29, 2013

Das DigiEnsemble Berlin spielte mit Smartphones und Tablets ein umfangreiches Musikprogramm im Rahmen des sonntäglichen Gottesdienstes am 3. Advent 2012 im Berliner Dom.

http://www.digiensemble.de/berliner-dom

Mit Musik-Apps spielten sie vor 600 Gästen Händels Konzert-Arie „Ombra Mai Fu" aus der Oper Xerxes, gesungen von der bezaubernden Sopranistin Anna Gütter. Außerdem wurde es eine experimentelle Raumklang-Collage nach einem Konzept von Sven Ratzel gespielt, die den Choral „Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland" und seinen altkirchlichen Vorgänger, den Hymnus „Veni redemptor gentium" des Ambrosius von Mailand (339--397) zur Basis nimmt. Ein weiterer Höhepunkt ist die Premiere unserer Interpretation der anspruchsvollen Bass-Arie „Großer Herr und starker König" aus J.S. Bachs berühmtem Weihnachtsoratorium. Für den Gesangspart konnte der bekannte Bariton Roman Trekel gewonnen werden.

http://digiensemble.de"

Mobile Music Making at the Berlin Summer University of the Arts

"App Music: Mobile Music Making
With Matthias Krebs July 29th – August 2nd, 2013

For quite a while now, making music with apps on smartphones and tablets has been more than simply a novelty. Some excellent music apps offer innovative digital musical instruments to the users. Additionally, digital music production has started to change. These apps already allow remarkable musical results, as demonstrated by the first serious album productions (e.g. “The Fall” by Gorillaz) and professional stage performances (e.g. by Jordan Rudess or the DigiEnsemble Berlin).

The summer school seminar will be a composition and sound workshop, in which participants will try out perspectives and potentials of “mobile music.” A range of different sounds and musical compositions will be developed in groups and discussed in a plenary session. Results of the interactive creative activities will be presented in a public performance at the c-base.

Starting with an overview of the different music apps, platforms, devices and interfaces, musical practices will be explored in the creative laboratory.Project groups will develop several performances and productions. The (partial) results will be presented in the workshop by the end of the last day. Additionally, a joint rehearsal with the musicians of the DigiEnsemble Berlin is scheduled. The last two days will be used to prepare the public performance in the c-base.

Central questions are:
• Can you express emotion and meaning with mobile music apps?
What possibilities are offered by mobile sensor controlled devices (such as smartphones and tablets) for music production and for future use as
musical instruments?
• Which musical forms, fields of application and performing practices can be shaped by music apps?

Participants
The workshop addresses interested parties as well as musicians, sound artists and music technologists, who are attracted by making music with digital sensor controlled devices and who are seeking an interactive exchange with others regarding new musical forms. At the same time, the workshop addresses composers and creative individuals (from the field of marketing/media production), who are keen on creating film material and background music for media productions.

Participants may certainly play on their own devices in the workshop, however, additional devices, peripheral equipment and amplifiers will also be provided.

Matthias Krebs is a music educator, physicist and opera singer. For many years now, he has participated in several theater productions as a sound artist and composer. He founded the DigiEnsemble Berlin at the Berlin Career College in 2010. Today, it is the first professional music ensemble, which is regularly performing mobile music on physical stages. Further, Krebs delves into the field of mobile music making in his blog as well as in several music article publications and in his current dissertation.

date: July 29th-August 2nd 2013
place: UdK Berlin, Bundesallee 1-12
fee: 400 € (from June 10th 2013: 420 €) No. of participants: 12 to 15
language: English
application deadline: July 1st 2013
Online registration: www.udk-berlin.de/summer-courses"

BACH: Christmas Oratorio on mobile devices - by DigiEnsemble Berlin featuring Tobias Berndt

Published on Dec 20, 2012

"The DigiEnsemble Berlin exclusively uses digital devices to perform the aria "Großer Herr, o starker König" from the famous and glorious Christmas Oratorio by Johann Sebastian Bach sung by Tobias Berndt.

For two years now, the DigiEnsemble Berlin has explored the opportunities of mobile music. This aria, however, is a very important step in the course of the musician's quest, due to the high qualitative aspiration and requirements of the piece. The DigiEnsemble Berlin physically premiers the piece together with the singer Roman Trekel at the Berlin Cathedral on the 16th December 2012.

The realization of the musically challenging aria is a culmination for the mission of acquiring virtuous playing techniques with smartphones. Matthias Krebs chose this aria consciously with the intention of accomplishing a signifying step in the ensemble's development. Experts like music professors from the Berlin University of the Arts were consulted to optimize the musical adaption and musical interpretation.
Furthermore, the technical level was enhanced by utilizing a number of elaborate controllers. An important sound quality improvement for this musical interpretation was enabled by a new motion control app called "MIDI In Motion" by Florian Schwehn.
In the process of the project, the digital devices became serious musical instruments on a high level of proficiency and differentiation that has not been reached before.

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Silent Night on mobile devices - by DigiEnsemble Berlin

Published on Dec 10, 2012 by DigiEnsemble

"Final-Version! This song was composed, produced an performed on mobile devices only. But, is it possible to play a Christmas carol on smartphones -- while not sounding plastic but conveying a warm Christmas mood?
More: http://digiensemble.com/silentnight // http://digiensemble.de/silentnight

The DigiEnsemble Berlin consists of trained musicians who seek a way of making music by only utilizing digital devices such as smartphones and tablet PC (of any kind). There are neither stylistic nor instrumental borders for the ensemble. The professional musicians can reach out of their trained comfort zone and stake out new musical land.

Since Christmas time is near, the DigiEnsemble provides a special surpise for you: a magic musical interpretation and a fantastic video production of "Silent Night."

----Credits----:
DigiEnsemble Berlin [music apps]
Marc Godau (voc, arr.) [Samplodica]
Viola Bornmann (voc., pad) [NodeBeat, SoundPrism Pro]
Willi Struzyk (bass) [iFretless, Beatmaker2]
Puya Shoary (drums) [Drums XD]
Tim Neuser (git.) [Geo Synth, iShred]
Matthias Krebs (pad, backings) [SoundPrism Pro, ImproVox]
Matti Klein (keys) [MusikStudio] [couldn't find this one on iTunes]

music produktion
Klas Yngborn (SoundTank Studios)

camera
Markenfilm Crossing

video production
Matthias Krebs (Idee, Regie, Projektleitung, punos)
Liesa Rademacher (cutter, feinefim)
Susanne Hassepaß (cutter, feinefilm)
Mathias Geck (color grading)
Lukasz Fabijanczyk (logo animation)
Bastian Schick (logo sounds)
Nastasia Mohren (ass., punos)

Many THX to Gesa Meynen and GRIMM GALLUN HOLTAPPELS.

Die Filmaufnahme fand am 20. September 2012 auf der alten Theaterbühne des Heimathafen Neuköln in Berlin statt. Release war am 6.12.2012.

Keep track on our
website http://digiensemble.com/
German website http://digiensemble.de
http://facebook.com/DigiEnsemble
http://twitter.com/digiensemble"

iOS Devices on eBay - Don't miss the Daily Tech Deals

Metropolis: le DigiEnsemble de Berlin | ARTE 8. Sept.2012 (re-upload)

YouTube Published on Sep 12, 2012 by DigiEnsemble Berlin

"Découvrez comment ces quatre musiciens du DigiEnsemble de Berlin utilisent des applications musicales pour tirer de leurs tablettes, smartphones et autres lecteurs numériques de la musique en tous genres.

Metropolis du 8 septembre 2012 um 14.35 Uhr (ARTE/NDR)

Date de première diffusion: Sam., 8 sept. 2012, 14h36
Thèmes: Arts, Cultures & Spectacles, Découverte"

Googlish:
"Discover how these four musicians DigiEnsemble Berlin musical applications use to take their tablets, smartphones and other digital music players of all kinds.

Metropolis September 8, 2012 um 14.35 Uhr (ARTE / NDR)

Date of first broadcasting: Sat, September 8, 2012, 14:36
Topics: Arts, Culture & Entertainment, Discovery"

iPads on eBay

Jazzy Bach on three iPads - DigiEnsemble Berlin

Jazzy Bach on three iPads - DigiEnsemble Berlin gives a short InSight (Pt 1)


Jazzy Bach on three iPads - DigiEnsemble Berlin gives a short InSight (Pt2)

YouTube Uploaded by DigiEnsemble on Apr 8, 2012

"We are rehearsing for a concert in Cairo at the German Weeks 2012 (17. - 24. April). We will perform at the opening ceremony with a wide range of music with our smartphones and tablets. This video is just a very short insight into our new jazz piece called "JazzBach".

The DigiEnsemble Berlin an experimental study group that follows a systematic approach playing on mobile devices (esp. iOS). Ten professional musicians got together trying out how to turn handheld devices into musical instruments. It is presenting their musical results on stages. Because of its experimental approach the ensemble plays a wide range of musical styles from classical music ("largo" from Haendel) up to metal music ("word up" in the version from Korn). Every note is played in realtime with a music app on stage. Most of the performances are made and played unique for one show.

http://digiensemble.tumblr.com - for informations in english
http://digiensemble.de - deutsche Homepage

contact and follow us on
http://facebook.com/digiensemble
http://twitter.com/digiensemble
http://flickr.com/digiensemble"

Geo Synthesizer - Jordan Rudess: Wizdom Music, LLC
GarageBand - Apple
iPads on eBay

"Ombra Mai Fu" made on smartphones - by DigiEnsemble Berlin featuring Anna Gütter

"Uploaded by DigiEnsemble on Jan 30, 2012

Professional musicians try out how to make music using new technologies.
(Informationen auf deutsch unter http://digiensemble.de/ombra)

This video shows a performance of the famous aria "Ombra Mai Fu" in an experimental version accompanied on smartphones and tablets. The musicians´s aim is to try out how to make joint music on smartphones.

The sound you hear is all played live by the musicians and their smartphones. In this case we are playing on the app-instrument "thumbjam" for iPod touch and iPad. [iTunes link] By lifting and lowering the devices tone and volume can be modulated. In this way an expressive play can arise.

However, the DigiEnsemble Berlin plays more than classical music, its musicians experiment with a wide range of genres, play
heavy metal, avantgarde or compose own pieces.

http://digiensemble.tumblr.com - for informations in english
http://digiensemble.de - deutsche Homepage

contact and follow us on
http://facebook.com/digiensemble
http://twitter.com/digiensemble
http://flickr.com/digiensemble
... ...

Literally "Largo by Handel" is a praise to the shade of a plane tree.

Lyrics:

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Ostinato for 8 iPods - by DigiEnsemble Berlin & Muse's Starlight

YouTube Uploaded by DigiEnsemble on Aug 13, 2011

"english below // deutsche Version hier: http://digiensemble.de/ostinato

„Ostinato for 8 iPods" - Classical Music with smartphones
- DigiEnsemble: flutes and violins made of smartphones!


The DigiEnsemble Berlin is in uncharted waters. It plays classical music with smartphones. Now, they come out with comprehensive material showing how to make joint music with smartphones and tablet-PCs.

With its own composition „Ostinato for 8 iPods" the DigiEnsemble Berlin releases an own piece of music especially composed for mobile gadget. Oriented to classical music it meets the opportunities of a smartphone that turn it into an instrument.

„Ostinato for 8 iPods" is appropriate to eight players with iPods, iPhones or iPads. With a little practice it sounds like a polyphonic instrumental piece. Commented by words of its composer the sheet music for "Ostinato for 8 iPods" is published for free usage. The piece especially addresses those who have never learned an instrument or only rarely use it. The way it is designed opens the possibilities of making digi-music to everyone - even to beginners.

In its newly produced video the DigiEnsemble gives a foretaste of its prowess. From close camera perspective the art of playing can be seen in detail. The digi-musicians show how they play their instruments individually. Moreover the DigiEnsemble gives answers to questions not only musicians are concerned with: How does it work? What is special about making digi-music? What are digi-instruments good for?

The DigiEnsemble Berlin makes smartphones sound like music instruments. Eight partly classical educated musicians got together trying out how to turn iPods, iPhones and iPads into instruments. Everybody is invited to share this experience and turn school break, coffee klatch or regulars´ table into a smartphone orchestra rehearsal.

How does yours sound?

---
The DigiEnsemble is an experimental study group founded and led by Matthias Krebs that follows a systematic approach to playing on mobile devices (iphone, ipad & co). Regular meetings are held for group practice as well as discussion and refinement of the approach.

If you would like to join us for the ensemble or would like to have more first hand information, please contact us at [info(at)digiensemble.de]

* http://digiensemble.de (german)
* http://youtube.com/digiensemble
* http://facebook.com/digiensemble
* http://twitter.com/digiensemble
* http://flickr.com/photos/digiensemble/
* http://soundcloud.com/digiensemble"

iPads on eBay
iPod Touch on eBay

DigiEnsemble - Starlight (Muse) iPad & iPhone Coverversion
Uploaded by DigiEnsemble on Apr 15, 2011

Also see:

DigiEnsemble auf Artour (MDR) - 26. Mai 2011
The DigiEnsemble & DigiMediaL iEnsemble

DigiEnsemble auf Artour (MDR) - 26. Mai 2011

YouTube Uploaded by DigiEnsemble on May 27, 2011

"Wie man musizieren kann: http://handymusik.wordpress.com

Beitrag: Sascha Conrad
am 26. Mai 2011 um 22:05 Uhr beim MDR
http://www.mdr.de/artour/8637697.html#absatz4

Die Mitglieder des DigiEnsemble Berlin sind professionelle Musikerinnen und Musiker, die mit iPhone, iPod-Touch und iPad an der Universität der Künste Berlin gemeinsam Musik machen. Ziel ist es im gemeinsamen Musizieren auszuprobieren, ob und wie mit den kleinen Geräten musiziert werden kann.

Dabei entstehen Musikstücke aus den unterschiedlichsten Stilrichtungen zwischen „klassischem" Streichorchester bis hin zum tanzbaren R'n'B-Act. Wir fanden, dass Begriffe wie Orchester oder Band für diese musikalische Bandbreite nicht passen und bezeichnen unsere Formation daher als Ensemble. Am wichtigsten ist uns, dass die Musik auf den Hosentaschen-Instrumenten interessant klingt und musikalisch ist."

Googlish:
"How you can make music: http://handymusik.wordpress.com

Contributors: Sascha Conrad
26 May 2011 at 22:05 clock the MDR
http://www.mdr.de/artour/8637697.html paragraph 4 #

The members of the Berlin DigiEnsemble are professional musicians, with iPhone, iPod Touch and make iPad at the University of the Arts music together. Goal is to test it in the music together, whether and how making music can be with the small devices.

This music created from a variety of styles between "classic" string orchestra up to the danceable R & B Act. We found that do not fit terms such as orchestra or band for the musical spectrum and describe our formation, therefore, as an ensemble. Most importantly us that the music interesting in his pockets instruments and sounds musical."

iPads on eBay
iPod Touch on eBay

The DigiEnsemble & DigiMediaL iEnsemble

YouTube by DigiEnsemble

"The DigiEnsemble Berlin is an experimental study group founded and led by Matthias Krebs that follows a systematic approach to playing on mobile devices (iphone, ipad & co). Regular meetings are held for group practice as well as discussion and refinement of the approach.

If you would like to join us for the ensemble or would like to have more first hand information, please contact us at [info(at) digiensemble.de]"

Playlist:
DigiMediaL - iEnsemble | Erstes Treffen 15.11.2010
DigiMediaL - iEnsemble | Zweites Treffen 11.12.2010
DigiEnsemble - "St. Anna" for iPod-Touch & iPhone (Probe am 4.4.)
DigiEnsemble - Starlight (Muse) iPad & iPhone Coverversion
DigiEnsemble - "St Anna" for iPod, iPad & iPhone

iPads on eBay
iPod Touch on eBay