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Tuesday, April 11, 2006

EML Polybox & Korg MS-10 : Mono Synth --- Poly Synth


Published on Mar 13, 2006 Genius Anz’s movie vault / Retro and Latest tech!

"Connection is
Korg MS-10(1VCO synth) VCO out (customized) --- Polybox --- MS-10 VCF in

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If you send one VCO signal to the EML Polybox, it will become a chord and come out. In the movie, I connect Korg 's MS - 10 VCO out to Polybox, return Polybox out to MS - 10' s VCF in, and play it.

For example, when holding a chord of "C, E, G" with Polybox and playing a note of "C" with MS - 10, "C, E, G" sounds, and MS - 10 plays "D" Then you can get chords of "D, F #, A" and so on.

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Long ago, when I was trying hard with a synth with only one VCO, if I could buy such equipment, I would have done a mad cynicalism and copied ELP."

Finally get to see one of these in action. The Poly-Box allows you to play your monosynth polyphonically almost like a real time sampler. It's not clear to me if you can actually play multiple keys at the same time for true polyphony. The video does not show this. If you know please comment.

"Poly-Box is a pitch following variable chord generator controlled by your synthesizer and Poly-Box's own keyboard with built-in memory. Poly-Box takes a single pitch from your synthesizer and creates two banks of pitch sources. Each pitch bank contains 13 simultaneously available pitch sources at precise semitone intervals - covering an entire chromatic octave. The pitch banks may be in the same or different octaves, and can cover the range from one above to three octaves below the synthesizer oscillator."

More on the Poly-Vox on VSE.

Updates:
1. Make sure to check out the comments for more on the Poly-Box
2. David Rogoff sent the following link on the basic technology to AH: http://www.organservice.com/crm/topdividers.htm
3. RSF made a comparable box, the black box (via synth ollie also on AH).

Update via Mike DB on AH:
"Clearly he has the polybox output being "re-filtered".
It's an amazing tool, but descriptions of it are often misleading.
Here's my attempt to clarify what it can and can't do. (originally posted
to the EMLsynth yahoo group):


Basically it is designed to track the pitch of one single voice. Then it
has 12 of it's own voices tuned chromatically apart from each other which
can be played on the 12 keys and will sound and stay relative to the
tracked pitch. The original root pitch is always coming from the low "C"
key on the keyboard. For example, press the "E" key of the Polybox
keyboard and you would hear a voice that is a major 3rd above the tracked
"root" pitch. It will follow that source and stay a major third above
it. You can play "chords" or any combination on the 12 keys or all of
them. It does a couple of other tricks like you can move the whole output
up or down a full octave and there are some phasing effects.

It won't read more than one voice and if you try, it will only
respond with some chaotic squawks. Same goes for noise and other sounds
with no distinct single pitch----of course chaotic squawks have their value
too.
It does not translate envelope or filter from the original voice; the
source timbre and expression is not preserved. The new voices are basically
either on or off as you play the keys and they are pretty much of a
generic sawtooth tone which you can fool with a bit on the Poly's
controls. You could, of course, run the Poly's output thru other effects
and filters and such to further modify it, but that's as much as it does
on it's own."

Korg PS-3100 Video on YouTube

Remember the Korg PS3100? 48 notes of modular polyphony using divide down circuitry. Title link takes you to a video of the PS-3100 sent my way via Keith Seaman. Thanks Keith!

P.S. Note the other synth videos to the right when you get there.

Update: Don't miss Part 2 and the other videos on the right when you get there.

Elektron SPS-1 Machinedrum

Title link takes you to more shots.



Also saved the shots here for posterity.

Moog Voyager OS 3.2 Release and New Little Phatty Demos

In via AH

"The latest update to the minimoog Voyager operating system has been released
today. It can be downloaded from the following link:
http://www.moogmusic.com/software/vgr_os_3-2.zip
Release notes are included in the zipfile.
This update was developed in tandem with the latest version of SoundTower's
Voyager editor, also just released.
The new editor can address multiple banks of patches (in a Voyager with
expanded patch memory), organise presets by category, and more.

also, there are new, improved Little Phatty sound samples posted on the Moog
website today, for your listening delectation...

cheers,

Amos"

Jean Michel Jarre Video on DVDBorn

Title link takes you there.

ABBA's White Prophet 5

Title link takes you to the video on YouTube.



This on in via DVDBorn's David Vandenborn on AH.

Roland JP-8080 Clipping?

Title link takes you to an interesting post by Don Solaris on Harmony Central regarding the Roland JP-8080 and clipping of its 12db filter. MuzikB was able to reproduce the behavior on a JP-8080, and I was able to somewhat reproduce it on a JP-8000. However, when I did, I was able to tame it by lowering the AMP Level on the JP8000, and I did not hear a difference in regards to clipping between the 12db and 24db filters. Also it only happened on one particular patch for me. Overall I do not get any clipping. My first thought was this kind of makes sense, but then I realized how much I had to turn the amp level down for the particular patch. If you have either a JP-8000 or JP-8080, try it yourself. Check out the thread for more detail.



Some of MuzicB's thoughts (read the thread for more):

"I mentioned the AMP level adjustment to Don earlier but also note that the signal is pretty tame with the occasional amplitude increase into clipping across certain frequencies. You can adjust the AMP level but the jumps still occur. The more I think about it, the more I believe that this isn't a bug or a mistake on Roland's part but that it was made to react this way.

I'll mess around some more tomorrow as it's getting late.

Keep up that great blog matrix!"

I especially like that last thought. : ) Thanks MuzicB!

Update via Don Solaris:
"I would like clear out some things. AMP setting has not much with this issue. The AMP level was at standard 64/127 value. The only thing we can do with AMP is introduce more distortion due its own nonlinearity, but that has nothing to do with the filter overload issue i am talking about. If we take a value of 64 as a standard 0dB gain, when we set it to 127 we are pushing Amplifier into its own nonlinear area which introduces new distortions (due to additional positive gain).

It is a normal thing when you reduced AMP that distortion got lower. But this is true just for values above 64 (say, reducing from 127 to 70). Below 64, you can't reduce the distortion. If you don’t believe me, do the following: Reduce AMP level below 50 and increase the main volume. You will hear distortion is still present. Or try another one. Put AMP level to max and Main level to low, play a note, you will hear distortion. Now put AMP level to low and Main level to high value - distortion is still here. (Please use headphones).

I think this should be also stated in Matrixsynth blog (which i enjoy reading) as people might think they can solve this issue by reducing AMP level. Unfortunatley that is just not possible as AMP is located post filter. And we should not confuse AMP's own distortion (due to its own nonlinearity), with this filter overload issue.

Keep up the good work Matrix, and thanks for putting this on synthblog."

No problem. Thanks Don.

When Robots Compose



Cikira's Aibo and a Muse. Awesome.

"The pups, being a simple sort, express their feelings in beepy MIDI-phrases.
The venerable Triadex Muse has a wider vocal range, and expresses its feelings
god knows how.

They get along. It's all about finding your Muse!"

knob-tron - New Flickr Shot

flickr by polyfonken. I love this shot.



Like synth battleships floating by each other in space.

Encore Frequency Shifter

Title link takes you there. Ever wonder what one of these sound like? You can find samples here.

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