Thief (1981) complete "Igneous" scene (music by TD)

video upload by kovalmoog

"The whole scene of Thief (1981) with TD's re-edition of 'Thru Metamorphic Rocks' theme, renamed as 'Igneous' in the OST release.
The film version is by far more extensive than Thief CD version.
Enjoy that sequence !"

TD = Tangerine Dream.

Curious what they were using back then. According to this thread, they used the following on tour during that time period:

Live in East Berlin, 31st Jan 1980

Chris Franke:
Custom modular synthesizer (comprising of about 50% Moog and 50%
Projekt Electronik):
Moog Oscx2/R.M./VCF/VCAs
Projekt Elektronik VcEnvx2 & Proj. Elek. 2VCO/W.Noise/R.M./Waves (for Drums)
Digital sequencer & trigger selector
Programmer for above (SCI model 700 programmer)
Synth sound bank (for above)
Moog 960 sequential controller x2
Projekt elektronik sequence controller x2
Moog 3-band parametric
Moog 12 stage phaser
Moog 920 programmer
Moog 16-channel vocoder
Rhythm robot sequencer
Emu Oddity voice card
12 analogue drum sounds
Drum envelope unit
Drum EPROM sampled sounds
and more...

Oberheim OB-1
Prophet 5 (rev 2)
Minimoog
Korg PE-2000 polyphonic Ensemble
Elka Rhapsody 610 string machine.

Edgar Froese:
custom Moog modular synthesizer (3 box units comprising Moog modules and sequencers plus sequence controllers from Projekt Electronic)
Prophet 5 rev 2
PPG Sonic Carrier 1003 programmable duophonic DCO/DCF/DCA based synthesizer
PPG Wavecomputer 360 polyphonic digital synthesizer
PPG 350 keyboard sequencer
Arp Pro-DGX monophonic preset synthesizer
Korg PE-2000 polyphonic ensemble
Roland MC-8 microcomposer
Roland VC-10 vocoder
Arp/Solina string ensemble
Mellotron mk V

Johannes Schmoelling:
- Minimoog
- Yamaha CP-80 electric grand
- Oberheim 4-voice
- Elka Rhapsody 610
- Polymoog
- Korg PS-3100
- Synthanorma sequencer

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European tours (Nov-Dec 1980 & Jan-Feb 1981):

Equipment used:

Chris Franke:
Moog/PE modular tower as above
Minimoog
Arp Odyssey mk III
Elka Rhapsody 610
Prophet 5 rev 2

Edgar Froese:
Projekt Elektronik modular synthesizer & sequencers (used by Peter Baumann during '76 and '77)
PPG 340 A Generator Unit, PPG340 B Processor Unit, PPG380 Event Generator, PPG x 2 Terminals, PPG x 2 Computer Keyboards,
Oberheim OB-X

He may have used some more keyboards during these tours but I'm not sure which ones (possibly the Arp pro-DGX, the PPG Sonic carrier or the PPG
360 wavecomputer?)

Johannes Schmoelling:
Moog modular synthesizer (usually handled by Edgar Froese on stage)
Minimoog
Polymoog
Prophet 5 rev 2
Yamaha CP-80 electric grand

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British Isles tour (Oct-Nov 1981):

Equipment used:

Chris Franke:
Moog/PE modular tower as above
Minimoog
Arp Odyssey mk III
Elka Rhapsody 610
Prophet 5 rev 2

Edgar Froese:
PPG 360 wavecomputer
PPG Wave 2
Arp Pro-DGX
Korg PE-2000 poly-ensemble
PPG 5-octave keyboard controller
Custom sequencer (by Helmut Groethe)

Johannes Schmoelling:
Minimoog
Oberheim OB-X (handled by Froese on previous tours)
Custom sequencer (like Edgar's)

Visite au studio Mos-Lab 2022 [w/ RSF Program Select]

video upload by Nr Synth

"Le studio Mos-Lab a la particularité de ne présenter que des instruments rares voire même rarissimes. Une caverne d'Ali baba qui a de quoi faire tourner la tête à tous les passionnés de synthés analos vintage. Sébastien nous parle de ces 2 dernières acquisitions: le matrix 12 et le Sonic 5."

"The Mos-Lab studio has the particularity of presenting only rare or even extremely rare instruments. An Ali Baba's cave which is enough to turn the heads of all lovers of vintage analog synths. Sébastien tells us about these 2 latest acquisitions: the Matrix 12 and the Sonic 5."

Starts with a walkthrough featuring an RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, Waldorf Wave, RSF Program Select unit, PPG 350 Computer Sequencer, Wave 2.3 & 360A Wave Computer.

This might be the first post to feature the RSF Program Select. Rare RSF Series 11 mouldar towards the end as well.

Polyfusion + PPG 350

seb17320
Published on Aug 5, 2017

"( + Mos-lab 984 en étage de sortie)"

La fabrication de Moscow Diskow (Telex)

Published on Nov 28, 2012 nygmatrash·9 videos

"Dan Lacksman et Marc Moulin décomposent leur tube de génie !"

Sennheiser VSM-201 Vocoderhttp://m.matrixsynth.com/2007/11/vocoder-videos-via-intromix.html, PPG 350 Sequencer, Moog modular & more.

Telex - Moskow Diskow (1979)

Published on Jul 10, 2012
"Telex - Moskow Diskow

Version : Original 1979

"Telex-Moskow Diskow", sound recording administered by: EMI"

350 Computer - Sequencer - VEMIA

via this VEMIA auction
"Rare and interesting early sequencer from PPG. Has some quirks, but works fine and has some excellent features. Here's Lucid Sound's informal report after servicing it:- 'There were a few 'anomolies' with this, and very little info available on the web, but I've got it to a good useable state. It really is quite an innovative device. There are some great features here, like the ability to invert the notes in a sequence just by pressing a button, or 'immediate playback' where the sequence repeats what you've just played as soon as you lift fingers off keyboard (takes some explaining but it's good, trust me). Two transpose modes, immediate (waits until the end of the current note) or delayed (waits until the end of the loop) - brilliant. There is a sync in/out, which is a high frequency audio clock, so you can sync to tape, or as I did, use a VCO to control the speed of the sequence (great with an EMS). It's 1V/Octave out, positive trigger. A few strange things though: The 'manual' (translated and brief) says pressing middle C starts a sequence or any other key to transpose - not on this one, bottom C is no transpose, all other keys transposing up. There is a Gate output. This works from the keyboard but not from the recorded sequence even though the trigger output does - however even the guy who wrote the simplified manual that's avaailable online says, and I quote: 'there is no word HOW and what these trigger modes are (sorry!)' It'll also do real time recording, and there's a whole load of editing stuff (timing and pitch changes etc). In really nice cosmetic condition too."

PPG 350 Computer - Sequencer - VEMIA

"Rare and interesting early sequencer from PPG. Has some quirks, but works fine and has some excellent features. Here's Lucid Sound's informal report after servicing it:- 'There were a few 'anomolies' with this, and very little info available on the web, but I've got it to a good useable state. It really is quite an innovative device. There are some great features here, like the ability to invert the notes in a sequence just by pressing a button, or 'immediate playback' where the sequence repeats what you've just played as soon as you lift fingers off keyboard (takes some explaining but it's good, trust me). Two transpose modes, immediate (waits until the end of the current note) or delayed (waits until the end of the loop) - brilliant. There is a sync in/out, which is a high frequency audio clock, so you can sync to tape, or as I did, use a VCO to control the speed of the sequence (great with an EMS). It's 1V/Octave out, positive trigger. A few strange things though: The 'manual' (translated and brief) says pressing middle C starts a sequence or any other key to transpose - not on this one, bottom C is no transpose, all other keys transposing up. There is a Gate output. This works from the keyboard but not from the recorded sequence even though the trigger output does - however even the guy who wrote the simplified manual that's avaailable online says, and I quote: 'there is no word HOW and what these trigger modes are (sorry!)' It'll also do real time recording, and there's a whole load of editing stuff (timing and pitch changes etc). In really nice cosmetic condition too."

VEMIA - Click on Auctions, Search, and search for 5760.

VEMIA Update

Via Peter Forrest:

"Interesting analogue items in the VEMIA auction at www.spheremusic.com ending on this coming Saturday, (April 12) include ARP 2500, Quadra, Solina String Synthesizer, Cavagnolo Exagone XM64, CRB Computer Band 2000, Crumar Spirit s/n 15, Digisound, Doepfer, Elka Synthex, EML 200, EMS Logik, Dequencer, Hi Fli, Vocoder 2000, ETI 4600, Fender Rhodes Mk I, Freeman String Symphonizer, unopened Hohner Clavinet, Drumfire DF500, Kenton Mono/Poly kit, Korg MS02, 03, 50, SQ-10, Trident II, VC-10; two Mellotrons (one in Canada), MasterRoom reverbs, R A Moog CEMS (the biggest custom design he ever did?), Minimoogs, Minitmoog, Sonic Six, three touchplates; Matrix 12 with Xpander front panel, OB8, OBMx, OSCar, Syntars, PPG 1002, 350, 360, 390; Rhodes Chroma, Prophet T8, Simmons SDSVs, Spectral Audio ProTones, Steiner Masters Touch, SE MIDIMini and MIDIMoog, Stramp Synchanger II, dotcom stuff, early Curetronic, Adrian Utley's theremin, Estradin 230, GTC Telefonfilter, Rozzbox, Persephone Deluxe, Springer 1950s time-stretcher, Vox Jaguar (Canada), Yamaha SS30, and plenty more besides. Some prices are high, some very high; some are surprisingly low. You can always just look at any pictures that interest you."

Pictured here is the MOOG Touchplate prototype #1.
"A fantastic and rare example of Bob Moog's own handiwork, serial number TP010. When he started back into music manufacture in the early eighties, the model 300 touch-plate was one of his first products. This is the prototype Synton received from Bob for demonstration purposes. It is extremely Moog-like in its characteristics. It has its own inbuilt power transformer, and the outputs are available on six 1/4in jack sockets, with good ol' Moog knobs for controlling sensitivity. It has a Synton sticker on the back, saying 'TOUCH PLATE USA'. Synton and Moog had a close relationship in the 80s, with reciprocal import/export. It is untested. This is from the collection amassed by Felix Visser, former head of Synton. All items were destined for a national technology museum project, many years in the planning, but finally cancelled by politicians and planners. They have mostly been stored unused for a number of years. Any items marked untested are untested, are sold as is, and could be fine or could need work. Wherever we have more information (good or bad news) it is mentioned in the item description."

Vintage Synth Scans

Click here for pdf scans of various synth brochures and articles. I tried to list all models below. Apologies for the long list but if you are searching for this stuff via your favorite search engine, this is the only way it'll come up, and finding that oddball rare scan can be absolute gold.


Roland
JX-8P and PG-800, JX-3P and PG-200, Jupiter-6, Juno-106, Synth Plus-60 (HS-60), SH-101 and MGS-1, EP-50, MPU-101, MPU-103, TR-707. TR-909, TR-606, TB-303, CR-8000, CR-5000, SBX-80, MSQ-100, MSQ-700, JSQ-60, BOSS Dr. Rhythm DR220A and DR-220E, Alpha-DRUM DDR-30/PD-10/PD-20, Alpha Juno-1 and Alpha Juno-2, DEP-5, DG CMU-810 Compu Synth, Juno-106, Juno-6, Super JX JX-10, MKS-100, MKS-50, MKS-7, MKS-70, SBX-80, SDE-3000/1000/2000, TR-505, Octapad PAD-8, TR-727, Jupiter-8, MC-8, System 700, CPE-800, VCA-800, System 100M, System 100, Jupiter-4, Promars, SH-2, SH-09, CSQ-600, CSQ-100, SH-1, SH-5, SH-2000, SH-7, SH-3A, SH-1000, VP-330, RS-09, RS-505, SA-09, SIP-300, SIP-301, SPA-240, SPA-120, SPV-355, SVC-350, SBF-325, SDD-320, SPH-323, SMX-880, SRE-555, RE-502, DC-30, DC-20, CR-78, CR-68, TR-66, MKB-1000, MKS-30, MKB-300, MKS-10, MKS-80, MPG-80, JX-3P, MC-4, MM-4, MC-202, MIDI-DCB, MTR-100, CV Interface, Piano Plus-400 HP-400, Piano Plus-300 HP-300, RE-150, RE-501, RT-1L, MPU-104, MPU-105, Cube-100 (CK-100), Cube-60 (CK-60), Cube-40 (CK-40), KS-2, KS05, KS-6, KS-11, KS-1000, TB Series Carrying cases, PSA AC Adapters, KS-1100, SC series soft cases, AB series resin-molded cases, MR-1, RH-10, DP-2/6, FS-1/2/3, M-16C/64C, BR-2/3, RD-1000, MKS-20, MKB-200

Yamaha (note the documentation adds the - in the descriptions. So you CS70M in the title, but CS-70M in the body). I thought that was interesting.
CP-30, CP-20, GS-1, CP-10, CP-11, CS-70M, CS-40M, CS-20M, MQ802, CP-80, SK-50D, SK-15, CS-15D, CE-20, CS-01, CS-15, CS-5, SK-30, SK-20, SK-15, SK-10, GS-2, CE-20, MA-10, MM-10, MH-10, KS-50, KS-100, E1005, E1010, MQ802, CP-80, CP-70B, CP-35, CP-25.

Korg
PS-3300, PS-3200, PS-3100, PS-3010, PS-3040, PS-3050, PS-3001, VC-10, MS-10, MS-20, MS-50, SQ-10, MS-03, MS-02, MS-01, 800DV, 700S, 900PS, M-500SP, PE-2000, PE-1000, KA-180, FK-3, FK-1, V-C-F, Mr. Multi, SE-500, SE-300, EM-570, SP-2035, SM-20, Mini Pops 120W 120P, Mini Pops 7, Mini Pops 45, Mini Pops 35, Mini Pops Junior, Korg Quartz, WT-10A, GT-6, RT-10,

Vintage Synth Story - magazine scans
Crumar DS2, Sequential Circuits Pro-One, RSF Kobol, Roland TB-303 and TR-606, TR-808, PPG Wave Computer, PPG Wave 2, Oxford Synthesizer Company OSCar, EMS Polyvoks, Oberheim OB-X, Octave-Plateau Voyetra Eight, EMS Polysynthi, Moog Minimoog, LinnDrum, Korg PS-3100, Korg MS20, EMS Synthi AKS, ELKA Synthex, ARP Sequencer, ARP Quadra, Korg Polysix, Korg PS-3200, Moog System 3P, Korg Trident mkII, Moog Liberation, Memormoog, Mutron Bi-phase, Oberheim 2 Voix, Oberheim Xpander, PPG Wave 2.3, Roland CR-78, Roland VP-330, RSF PolyKobol, Moog 960 and 961, Sequential Circuits Prophet 10, Vox Super Continental, Yamaha CS-15, ARP, Chroma, Sequential Circuits Drumtraks, EMS Vocoder 5000, E-MU Drumulator, Korg Story, Yamaha CS70M, Korg, Synton Syrinx, Roland MC-4, Oberheim 6 voix, Simmons SDS V, Simmons SDS.3, PolyKobol RSF, Keyboards Synthe Story Part 1 and Part 2.

PPG Wave Computer 360/360A, Wave 2, Wave 2.2/2.3

The following is from Stephen, aka WaveComputer360 (appropriate alias with all this knowledge)! : ) This is a great piece on the PPG Wave line of synthesizers, from the Wave Computer 360/260A, Wave 2, up to the Wave 2.2/2.3. WaveComputer360 originally sent this to AH. He gave me the ok to put it up here. Thanks Stephen! Title link goes to Stephen's website. Also check out the official [´ramp] website at www.doombient.com. Now for PPG:

Image via http://www.ppg.synth.net/360/


"Basically, the Wave 2 is the first of the PPG Waves that came with a VCF for each voice. Other than the 360/360A which had no filtering at all, the Wave 2 had CEM-based filters. Also, it had a different output stage than the 360 and no longer was as hot (still hot, but not THAT hot). In the 360, the direct output from the DAs to the output stage also resulted in an extremely brittle and sizzling sound with loads of quantization and aliasing artefacts which added greatly to its grit. Also, the resolution of many parameters was greatly improved on the Wave 2, hence scanning wavetables no longer produced glitches from value to value but you could find values in between, too. This (plus the filters) lead to some sounds on the Wave 2 the 360 wasn´t capable of producing, even though it had exactly the same wavetables. On the other hand, using the Wave 2 with filters wide open did not get near the viciousness of the Wave Computer 360/360A.

A classic example of the 360 in use would be Wolfgang Düren´s "Eyeless Dreams" album or the albums by Rolf Trostel. Thomas Dolby also used the 360 in addition to the 340/380 system he got from Edgar Froese. "Windpower" would be a prime example. Edgar Froese produced a nice showcase for early PPGs with "Stuntman".

Like the Wave Computer 360/360A, the Wave 2 had two ranks of wavetable oscillators, each capable of producing eight voices. The most interesting results were only obtainable when you layered two ranks of WTOs, thus reducing the Wave 2 to four-voice polyphony (like the Wave Computer 360, and please believe ME and not the others who want to tell you rubbish about four- and eight-voice 360s and upgrades and stuff.... this is utter bullshit). The Wave 2 also featured an internal eight-track sequencer (eight times the 350, so to speak, or the more manageable version of the 380 Event Generator), hence there was a lot more controls necessary than on the 360. PPG introduced two keypads which allowed more access to various voice allocation and wave assignment modes, for controlling the sequencer and for entering various panel modes; in order to make it easier to survey, they also introduced an LC display with which they replaced the original LED readouts (two on the Wave Computer 360 prototype, five on the Wave Computer 360A "production" model).

The best-known examples of the Wave 2 in use would be ABCs "The Look of Love" where Anne Dudley played those famous funeral bells, and Depeche Mode´s "See You", plus various Tangerine Dream stuff ("Das Mädchen auf der Treppe", the edited single-hit off the "White Eagle" album).

The 2.2 had 16 voices, organized in two ranks of WTOs again; by coupling/layering them you reduced polyphony to eight voices. The output stage was slightly altered as well, hence the 2.2 sounds nowhere near as raunchy as a 360 or a Wave 2; the overall sound tends to be smoother and more polite. It already featured 8bit DAs, like the Wave 2, but it had an even more refined sound. It also featured more comprehensive panel controls for easier parameter access (not quite successfully, but there you go). I´m not sure about the filters used, but I think they redesigned the 2.2 and 2.3 to go with SSM filters rather than CEMs.

The 2.3 was introduced in 1984, featured a 12bit DA, and instead of 32 wavetables per oscillator it just had 30 plus two sampled waveforms (piano and saxophone, I think). The onboard sequencer was equipped with larger memory, and the interfacing options for the PPG System were reworked also, which lead to the inclusion of MIDI alongside the PPG communication buss (although the 2.2 could be upgraded to 2.3 standard).

Palm inofficially labelled all Waves as "360", the original prototype Wave Computer 360 with just two LED readouts being the " ", the sort-of production model of the Wave Computer became the 360"A", the Wave 2 was the "WC360B", the 2.2 the "WC 360C" and so forth. Don´t believe the talk; most people have never ever seen a 360 alive (unless they snapped up the ones for sale in the VEMIA) thanks to the 45 or 50 units ever produced. As a consequence, a lot of bad information has spread and found its way into the minds of synthesizer enthusiasts. The 360/360A and the Wave 2 had eight
voices per WTO rank, by layering you reduced polyphony to four voices. The 2.2 and 2.3 came with 16 voices per WTO, usually you´d layer to WTOs and hence reduce polyphony to eight voices.

To make things even more confusing, PPG produced Wave Computer 360As even after the introduction of the Wave 2. This lead to some 360As (two that I know of, but maybe more than that) in Wave 2 casing, but with white panel graphics with black lettering.

[image added: White PPG 360 via http://www.ppg.synth.net/360/]


These units no longer had the Dr. Böhm keyboard used in the earlier 360As but Pratt and Read keyboards which were used for all later PPGs. This may also
have lead to some models in between where Palm himself wasn´t really sure how to label them. That may have been the reason for some confusion in the past (most early PPGs had hand-written serial numbers, written with a soft-tip feltpen).

Trust me, I owned several of these rare beauties (and beauties they are indeed), and I´m very well-acquainted with 360s and Wave 2s. Never felt too keen on getting a 2.2 or 2.3 as I found them nice but not challenging. Still very, very characterful instruments, though, and maybe attractive to those who don´t need quirky instruments (especially the Wave 2 tends to be prone to failures as many of the bugs in the new software revision had not been ironed out properly yet). Even the Wave Computer 360s featured different OS revisions which makes it very hard to find proper OS replacements and transplant it from one unit to another.

All PPGs are quirky in their own way, especially the introduction of MIDI did their reputation no good; like one guinea pig... erm, musician from Hamburg, who had embarked on PPG products right from the start, once pointed out, MIDI and Wolfgang didn´t go well together. And the abbreviation "PPG" was interpreted by many German musicians as "Palms Panik-Geräte" ("Palm´s Panic Units") or "Popelige Palm-Geräte" ("cheapo Palm units").

Apologies for having wasted bandwidth,

Stephen.

"Ambition makes you look pretty ugly." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid
Android")

"Hoellenengel" -- new album by Stephen Parsick, street date October 1, 2005.

For info and audio, please check www.parsick.com

Visit the official [´ramp] website at www.doombient.com

WTB: "England´s Hidden Reverse" by David Keenan (Coil, Current93, Nurse With
Wound, David Tibet).

Update: See the comments for more info.